43-287B

Brad

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I got the new mould in today. As usual Tom did some excellent work. If times allows I will fire up the pot and cast some tonight or tomorrow.

Damn that is a bunch of bearing surface on the nose.
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Brad

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Looks like a decent hunting bullet too. Enough meplat to smack down a whitetail.
 

Rick

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Man that looks nice! I could use another 44 mold.....:rolleyes:

Before you order one measure your cylinder and throats. Note where the crimp groove is on this bullet and the amount of full diameter nose length inside the throats. This bullet was spec'd for Brad's SRH.
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Brad

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The nose on this was made to fit a Redhawk cylinder which allows .050 longer nose to crimp over a Blackhawk. A Redhawk can take .500 crimp to nose while a Blackhawk can only take .450. I spec'd this one to be .485 so I had a little room in case of recoil related bullet movement. I don't expect issues but I can be a bit belt and suspenders in some regards.

Pot is heating, mould is heating. Back in a bit.....
 

Brad

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Rick, after casting with the mould I can guarantee those are shadows. Bullets fell out of the cavities like money from your pocket on tax day.
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Sized and checked bullet along with a case with bullet to see how they would chamber. That is the max length for the cylinder. Look at that bearing surface.

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Rick said a snug slip fit? This is a sized bullet inserted by hand held in place by friction with the cylinder held vertical. Can it get much better?

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Mock up round chambered fully. Fills the throats pretty well. It is snug but the case easily ejects. You definitely feel when the bullet enters the throat.
Ignore the nose, I tried one a bit long and I had tap it farther into the case to get the cylinder to open.

Bullets weigh 284 with this alloy. The alloy is a mix I ended up with when I melted down 75 pounds of cast bullets I had sitting around. No idea what the exact composition is but I bet it is close to WW plus a little tin. Runs 14 BHn or so air cooled.

From the mould they run .433 but they size very easily to .430+

Awesome work Tom, couldn't have asked for better.
 

Brad

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I have a 5" Redhawk. That bullet looks very nice.
Oh, this would work very well in a 5" Redhawk.
I can't wait to get out and see how they shoot.
If you want a few to try let me know.
 

Rick

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Looks good. Notice the bullet bulge from seating the bullet in the 445 brass? Me either. :D Perfect. Did you size the brass? I frequently shoot virgin unsized brass but it depends on individual lot's of brass, some is looser than others within the same brand. Probably depends on the dies the factory used. After firing neck size only. Can't tell from the picture, is the bullet seated deep enough to crimp?
 

Brad

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Cases are not sized. I need to trim the cases a little to let me crimp and still have the bullet in the cylinder. Now that I have the mould and some cast bullets I can finalize trim length.
With as little bullet as there is in the case I won't be sizing more than 1/2" and leaving the rest fire formed to the chambers.

I am really excited about how well the bullet fit once sized. The sizing also took very little effort and didn't seem to damage the nose at all. After sizing you can still see where the parting line was.
 

Rick

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Be aware of neck tension, if it seems the bullet seats too easily it's too light. Neck tension and not crimp is what will give you a consistent burn with powder like H-110.
 

fiver

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your working this just like I worked the 32-20 brass to fit my 30 carbine revolver.
I ended up sizing a bit larger [using your size die BTW] to fit the cases better not to fit the gun better but I never seen any loss of accuracy from doing so.

anyway I got the boolits to slip into the throats and seated in some cases, then trimmed back just enough to roll crimp in the groove.
you can feel the rounds slide down the cylinder and 'lock' into place at the bottom.
 

Brad

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Yep, get the brass and bullet right so the nose is help straight by the throat. In a lot of ways this isn't very different from what we do with rifles.

And yes Rick, I will pay attention to neck tension. All 100 cases will get the same number of firings, all will be sized the same way.
 

Kevin Stenberg

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Is it kind of strange? That I am just as excited to read about your testing. As if the mold is mine. And I am doing the testing.
Tom get ready for a couple more orders for this mold!
 

Brad

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Kevin, just make sure the revolver you own can handle the longer nose. I know a Blackhawk won't work well with it.
I need to get a load round and see how it fits in the BH my FIL owns.
 
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