i hate the wind

Tomme boy

Tomme boy

Well-Known Member
227-65gr mp mold sized 0.225" powder coated gator gas check. 100yds. 19gr RL10x and mixed brass with a FGMM SR. Savage Axis with a 26" Criterion SS 1-9 twist barrel.

The orange dots are 1" stickers.

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Here is the second group to see how it did. Same conditions. The other 2 are 50 cal holes sighting in a scope for one of my muzzleloaders. We won't talk about the scope it broke. AGAIN! I swear no one can make a sub $200 scope anymore.

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Not too bad. These bullets have been sitting aging for about 1.5 years. This barrel has a very short throat. I had to seat the bullets to 2.09" to just touch the leade.

Next time out I have some loaded with titegroup to try at slow speed. I have never tried this with the 223 before.
 
Brad

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
A $200 scope today is a kids toy. You aren’t getting inexpensive at that cost, merely cheap.

Like has already been said- with optics you get what you pay for.
 
RBHarter

RBHarter

West Central AR
I'm still not putting a Ziess on my 65' 110LH even if I call the new barrel a 275 Rigby for a 2-300 yd back country bad roads hunting workhorse .

8 yr ago only 2 makers offered a fixed 4 or 6x duplex and the cheap one started at $400 . Yeah the 201? Cheapo next to a 196? Weaver is a huge jump in glass but how much of that do we really use as sportsmen in the field .
 
CWLONGSHOT

CWLONGSHOT

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I have same mold Tomme and hoping ta do same with my 1:9 Mossberg.

She can shoot jacketed!

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(Kidding).

I have been upgrading optics myself here as of late. I ran across one that seems good but not at all ferminular. I should start my own topic

Niko Stirling Diamond

Anyhow. I have a Riton Conquor on it and she is a sweet shooter. Having a good CB load that could shoot would be tops!

CW
 
P

Petrol & Powder

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There are no shortcuts in the field of optics. It’s science, It’s harsh reality and it’s inflexible.

Everything related to optics is some type of compromise. Want more magnification? No problem, sacrifice field of view, weight and light transmission. Want more light transmission? You’ll give up economy at the very least and probably some magnification. Want variable power or extreme spread of variable power? We can engineer that for a small fee, some extra weight, and a little more complexity. Want more durability, lighter weight, and the ability to hold a zero? We can certainly accommodate you, just need another digit or two to the left of the decimal point on the price.

When it comes to optics, there’s no free lunch. You make the compromises you need to get the traits you desire.

You don’t need to spend a fortune to get a scope that is “good enough” but you do need to spend some money to get one that is adequate.

High quality optical glass costs money. Proper ground lenes costs money. Anti-reflective coatings cost money and good coatings cost a lot of money. High quality materials and precision construction costs money. And all of that occurs before you even begin to trade things like magnification for field of view and light transmission.
 
Gary

Gary

SE Kansas
I have to say, my Arken SH-4J 6-24X50 FFP that I got for $289 on sale is fantastic. Clear and tracks beautifully. I have one on my 6 ARC and one on my Bergara B14 R.

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CZ93X62

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
^^^THIS!^^^ (All the above)

And you still have to dope the wind after spending all that money. "No free lunch" is right.
 
L Ross

L Ross

Well-Known Member
CWLONGSHOT said:
I have same mold Tomme and hoping ta do same with my 1:9 Mossberg.

She can shoot jacketed!

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(Kidding).

I have been upgrading optics myself here as of late. I ran across one that seems good but not at all ferminular. I should start my own topic

Niko Stirling Diamond

Anyhow. I have a Riton Conquor on it and she is a sweet shooter. Having a good CB load that could shoot would be tops!

CW
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What are all those little aerial boat silhouettes?;)
 
Tomme boy

Tomme boy

Well-Known Member
I had a AK74 in the 5.45x39 that did that. The US maker used a 0.224" barrel instead of the 0.222" it was supposed to have. After about 100 rnds it started to do that keyholing. Century Arms gave me my $ back on it as they were no longer making it.
 
Ian

Ian

Notorious member
I shot 13, 30-minute muzzleloader relays and one round of trap in 35-50⁰ weather with wind from every direction but right crossing and it never luffed below 15 MPH in the past two days. .45 round balls were going 14-16" sideways at 100 yards, good times! My face looks like someone sandblasted it and poured salt on.
 
JonB

JonB

Halcyon member
L Ross said:
Tomme, Tomme, sub $200 scopes have not been worth a hoot since about 1985.
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While I won't be buying any new optics for the rest of my life, but if I needed to buy something new today and spend less than $200, It'd be a Vortex Crossfire II, (Cabela's $149 for 3x9x40). I'd bet dollars to donuts, it would be worth a hoot.
...BUT, there always seems to be some used Leupolds around when I need one a scope ;)

https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/vortex-crossfire-ii-rifle-scope
 
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Rick H

Rick H

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Ian said:
.45 round balls were going 14-16" sideways at 100 yards, good times!
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Shooting roundballs will give you a whole new appreciation of judging the wind. Inside 300 yds with most modern jacketed hunting rifles I can ignore the wind on big game animals. Try that with a round ball at 100 yds and you might not even scare the beast.
 
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