357 Max , Ruger # 1

Ben

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Trevor ( my grandson ) likes to shoot mild wadcutters out of the Ruger # 1, 357 Max. The load today is 4.0 grs. Red Dot in 357 Mag cases with the 360432 , 160 gr. Wadcutter.

A very mild and very accurate load in the Max.


40 Yards. 10 rounds , He really enjoys this rifle and load combination.
It is a great CF load for training a young shooter.

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Jeff H

NW Ohio
Love the 'Max. Love the Ruger Single Shots. Great combination.

Trevor is getting an experience a very large parts of our youth are missing. There are not enough young people shooting, but even those who do are not getting the benefit of experiencing the single-shot, a classic rifle (even if it was invented in our own time) a rifle with WOOD on it, and loads that you can NOT buy in a store OR online.

I think he appreciates that based on his expressions, and I hope he passes it onto other youngsters as he matures himself.

You're dong a great thing, Ben. Not just for Trevor, but for our passion and for future generations.
 
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Brad

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Sure, give him a single shot......
You can load more ammo Ben......

He is lucky to have such a fine selection of firearms to shoot and a person who will work with him. Somehow I think he is second place when measuring who gets more out of the time spent together.
 

JWFilips

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Again another great post from Grandpa Ben! I love seeing what Trevor is shooting. Nothing wrong with a single shot! I shoot all my rifles that way with cast! Gives one time to figure out what one has done on the last shot:)
That Boy was meant to shoot....good thing someone was around to let him pursue it!
 

S Mac

Sept. 10, 2021 Steve left us. You are missed.
He's a shooter for sure. It tickled me hearing him hum in the video, quite at ease. Curious, are those 38 Sp brass?
 

Snakeoil

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Member at Wilton recently finished building a .357 Max (aka .38 Ballard Extra Long) from a Win. Low Wall. He loves the rifle and it shoots very well.

Ben, .357 Max is a commercially made caliber. Here is an excerpt from Starline Brass' website.

The .357 Maximum was developed in the early 80's by Ruger and Remington Arms as a silhouette cartridge for the Blackhawk revolver. This beefed up, elongated .357 Magnum has also been chambered in Dan Wesson revolvers as well as several single shot rifles and pistols including the T/C Contender. Game laws in several states have changed, and are now allowing pistol caliber rifles for deer hunting, giving new life to this once obsolete cartridge.
 

Ben

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Thanks for the info.
However this is the 4th Max that I've owned since 1978.
A great caliber.

Ben
 

Snakeoil

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Once fired .357 Mag cases.

Ben

Interesting. Looking at the video, I thought the cartridge looked much longer than that and were .357 Max cases.

Thanks for the info.
However this is the 4th Max that I've owned since 1978.

Sorry, should have used a quote. I was responding to S Mac who asked if they were .38 spl cases. I'm not sure why I started it with Ben. I suspect gray hair played a role. Probably played a role in not noticing you said you were using .357 mag cases in your opening post. Another Homer Simpson moment on my part.
D'oh!
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
How many kids get to experience one of the coolest rounds ever made in one of the coolest guns ever made?

Such a neat cartridge - simple, versatile, efficient and economical - GREAT for cast bullets. I remember when it first came out that it didn't really push a lot of buttons for me but seemed interesting. At that time, it was hyped as a revolver cartridge for silhouette shooting and my imagination hadn't latched onto it yet.

I lived in California at the time and while visiting a central coastline park, a ranger or some such authority stopped to chat with my wife and me while we were hiking. He pointed out an area where he'd seen a group of hogs (wild Russian hogs, all hairy and tusky) and advised that we should be on the lookout and steer clear of them because there was a huge, cranky male among the crowd. I felt the 3" 44 Special in my pocket shrivel up a little.

It hit me at that moment that the 357 Max may just be the berries for the guys shooting steel, but it would almost certainly be a really neat hunting round as well! I shared my epiphany with my wife and got "that look" - you know, the patient, hollow stare waiting for you to come back to the present reality? "OK, Dear, never mind - onward to our picnic-blanket lunch-date."

I know everybody knows this, but commonality of components, and especially tooling is a huge plus to this round. Anyone with a 38 or 357 revolver, should have a single-shot 'Max as a companion. Just THREE moulds provides NINE possible options with this caliber, without considering the endless possibilities regarding powder choices and charge variations. This is one of those where a fella could easily get by with one to three powders for a very wide range of loads. Note that Glenn has an article on LASC using a single mould for several 35 cals which is extremely interesting reading.

I'm glad this one came back from near obscurity. I'd like to thank every shooter who uses it and buys the brass, because that's what saved it - people using it and more people waking up to its potential over the past several years. I was ready to give up on it until Starline started making brass for it. Supplies were too spotty and iffy just previous.

Oh, and not to dis' the 44 Special, so don't beat me up. I had just started loading for it myself and it seemed very "light " compared to the 44 Mags I had cut my teeth on.
 

creosote

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I wish I didn't read this. But now I know what I did know, that I wish I didn't know. Now I know what I shouldn't do.
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
I wish I didn't read this. But now I know what I did know, that I wish I didn't know. Now I know what I shouldn't do.

Well, if you're going to do it, make sure it's a single shot because you can shoot anything from wadcutters to really heavy stuff. And get a bunch of brass. Who knows how long this recent reprieve will endure. Seems everything I've ever taken a shine to has either just recently been discontinued or is soon to be discontinued.

Look at it this way, if you're going to let someone else be a "bad influence" on you, Ben's one of the best "bad influences" there is.;)
 

creosote

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Its all good to me.
Didn't find a max. Or a single shot.
Only an older .357 marlin repeater.
Picked it up at the lgs Friday.