35/30 strikes again

todd

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i went out deer hunting tuesday afternoon and i took my win m94 in 35/30(JES Reboring). it was windy(15-20mph, gusts 35mph) and around 33 degrees. i was sitting there for about two hours with an hour till dark. i go to myself, "ah. .), its windy and i'm tired of sitting there and i'm ready to gimp back down to my utv." i give it a lookaround and suddenly, downwind of me, comes a buck. i have earth scent and it works well, so i wasn't surprised the buck came there. i look it over and i go to myself, "it looks like 4pt and i don't have any meat......i'll wait till turns, then i'll shoot it." it turns, goes about 10 yards, then the buck stops. the buck is 50ish yrds, about broadside, so i take the shot. the buck jumps up and runs about 20ish yards and it stands there. but the buck stops behind a tree, only leaving his hindquaters in view. i put another "shell in the chamber" and wait. then there is a "sniffing" sound and the buck is blowing air(entrance and exit wound) out of the lungs. it must have taken me 5 minutes(only about 40-50 seconds) before he fell down and died.

i gimp up to the 4pt and i see that the shot was high and behind the shoulder. that would explain why i heard the "sniffing" sound. the 200gr rcbs fn gc with 20.0gr of 2400/tuft of dacron(1726fps) went thru the rib, thru both lungs, and went out thru a rib. i guess that made a 1 1/4 - 1 1/2" exit hole. i gutted it and and "tried" to drag it, i was like a one legged man in an butt kicking contest!!!! it was getting dark so i left it there, go home and call my brother to drag it out(he and the buck went 30 yards over 4 broken trees.) i guess that it 150-160lbs field dressed. i should have took some pictures, but i didn't. both antlers were around 1" base, goes up about 4 or 5" and the Ys off and ends and 9 or 10". i'm just glad that i got a deer, gimpyiness besides!!!!!!
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
Nice work, Todd!

You have some of the best stories and glad to see you still getting out there to make them.

That 35/30 is still very intriguing. I'm trying to wear out a 30/30 so I can rebore one too.;)
 

fiver

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yeah.... LOL.
you could buy a worn out one and still not finish it off in a single lifetime.

good Job Todd.
i know about not being able to drag a deer anymore.
i'm good at finding them and shooting them and cleaning them and skinning them and i can even do a passable job at cutting one up for the freezer.
but dragging one?,,, not anymore, at least not very far.

i just got a LEE copy of that bullet for my 358.
 

todd

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Nice work, Todd!

You have some of the best stories and glad to see you still getting out there to make them.

That 35/30 is still very intriguing. I'm trying to wear out a 30/30 so I can rebore one too.;)

mine is a post '64 (1972) and the 30-30 has killed alot of deer for me. so much so it held a place in my gun safe for 20+ years
i sent it to JES a couple of years ago and he did the 35/30. after i got it back, i did a williams fp sight(my eyes ain't what they once were, i have glasses now) on it and i'm glad that i did.

sighting it in at 100 yards with williams fp
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fireforming and using old open sights at 50 yards
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Jeff H

NW Ohio
Good luck with that!
LOL! Just wistful thinking!

My current 30-30 is a near-new, stainless MGM Contender Carbine barrel with a few hundred rounds of cast through it. I'll never get there, but I consider trying to "wear a gun out" to be a noble objective - realistic or not.;)

@todd , that is one neat rifle. I'd bet there are more than a few neglected/worn 94s hidden away out there, which would make marvelous candidates. Sure was a lot of them made and over a great time span, but no where near ENOUGH of them made given the "scarcity" these days.
 

todd

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LOL! Just wistful thinking!

My current 30-30 is a near-new, stainless MGM Contender Carbine barrel with a few hundred rounds of cast through it. I'll never get there, but I consider trying to "wear a gun out" to be a noble objective - realistic or not.;)

@todd , that is one neat rifle. I'd bet there are more than a few neglected/worn 94s hidden away out there, which would make marvelous candidates. Sure was a lot of them made and over a great time span, but no where near ENOUGH of them made given the "scarcity" these days.


i remember the '80-90s that you could spend $100-125 for a used one. i think its around 7 - 8 million win m94 that were produced. i think thats scare enuff. :rofl:i have not seen one that was shot out, just a good cleaning with sweets or shooters choice( or something that dissolves copper). everyone that brings an older gun to me that says it is shot out, i tell them what do you clean it with? "i use outers oil and nitro solvent" is what said 99 times out of 100. the problem with nitro solvent; is its inability to remove/dissolve copper. i'll show them how to do using sweets, shooters choice and others. the greenish-blue on the white patch usually shocks people. i've saved alot of guns from rebarreling or selling.


i have three MGM encore barrels, 20 vartarg, 444 marlin and the 500 linebaugh. the 20 vartarg is around 2500 spent bullets to its name. i think that by the time its shot out, i'll be old and grey(or bald) and ready for eternity. the 444 and 500L will be my sons rifles.
 
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STIHL

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Nice work, the best feeling in the world for me was taking a deer with a cartridge I made, the best will be taking an animal clean with a bullet I made loaded into a cartridge I made. Congratulations sir. One for the books.
 

todd

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i can remember in the early '90s, when i had a chance to buy sks at $75 per but i didn't need the rest of them(i had to buy a crate). if i knew now what i know then...........
 

fiver

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the sportsman's near me has a rack of norinco SKS's for sale at either 399 or 459.
they look to have walnut stocks and not the beech ones i remember from the 90's though.
 

todd

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i find them once in a while, but its only one or two. the last place was about a year and so ago. it was $400 for a norinco.
 

Ole_270

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I've found that dragging is much easier if you loop a rope or something around the horns or legs as may be. Step into the doubled over rope and hold it up about waist level and walk away. This year with my carpel tunnel surgery on both hands I knew I wouldn't be able to just grab the leg and pull. Looked around the shop and found an old nylon strap about 7-8 ft long with a sewn in loop on each end. With the buck wednesday afternoon, I doubled the loops over on themselves and cinched each end onto the horns. I was able to drag a fairly large buck through heavy downed timber with a few small creeks to get closer to the truck. On the doe I got this afternoon, I did the same on the back legs to go maybe 30 yards across the fence to the waiting 4 wheeler. The doe was taken with the new fangled 257 Roberts and 100 gr Interlock. I do work out some, but will be 69 next month and not the man I used to be.
 

MW65

Wetside, Oregon
i can remember in the early '90s, when i had a chance to buy sks at $75 per but i didn't need the rest of them(i had to buy a crate). if i knew now what i know then...........
Picked up in '89 a norinco sks with a painted stock for $59. Crate of chicom ammo was $109.

Removed the paint and used blo and gunny's paste on it to purty her up. Great fun toy which I sold when I was hurting for $$$.
 

todd

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I've found that dragging is much easier if you loop a rope or something around the horns or legs as may be. Step into the doubled over rope and hold it up about waist level and walk away. This year with my carpel tunnel surgery on both hands I knew I wouldn't be able to just grab the leg and pull. Looked around the shop and found an old nylon strap about 7-8 ft long with a sewn in loop on each end. With the buck wednesday afternoon, I doubled the loops over on themselves and cinched each end onto the horns. I was able to drag a fairly large buck through heavy downed timber with a few small creeks to get closer to the truck. On the doe I got this afternoon, I did the same on the back legs to go maybe 30 yards across the fence to the waiting 4 wheeler. The doe was taken with the new fangled 257 Roberts and 100 gr Interlock. I do work out some, but will be 69 next month and not the man I used to be.


i find it much easier just to get my brother or my sons. :rofl: i'm 48 and i had a stroke about 10 years ago. my right arm/leg are just about worthless but i do what i can.

Picked up in '89 a norinco sks with a painted stock for $59. Crate of chicom ammo was $109.

Removed the paint and used blo and gunny's paste on it to purty her up. Great fun toy which I sold when I was hurting for $$$.

i should have got the money and buy a crate of sks.........:sigh:
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
It's easier to go with the hair than against it too . But if it works who am I to argue success .
One of the funniest stories I ever heard told was about a Trooper was about as popular as herpes. He was a former discount store security guard, had all the personality of your average hemorrhoid and on top of that he was DUMB!!! Oh yeah, and he had little mans syndrome, but only AFTER someone else got the BG in handcuffs! Then all the sudden he was Billy Bad A##. A total idiot IOW. Anyhoo, he was riding with an old timer and they had a car/deer accident to investigate. The old gent that struck the deer wanted it and the older Trooper was filling out the paperwork. Tells the idiot to go drag the deer up the hill to the gentleman's car. The way it's told by the wrecker guy who witnessed it, Ray, (the idiot), disappears over the hill and before long they hear this real high pitched girly grunting sort of sound. He described it as what you'd hear if your little sister of 8 years old or so was involved in a tug of war with a honey badger. They go over to see whats going on and there's Ray the Idiot trying to haul that deer backwards up the hill by just the horny part of one hoof. He said it was like watching Pee Wee Herman attempt to do something manly. The old gent takes one look, says something to the effect of, "Holy crap...", and walks away shaking his head. The older Trooper, a guy known for quelling pretty good sized bar fights just by walking in the door and staring the participants into submission, (his picture is next to the definition of the word "intimidating" in Websters), about blows his stack and proceeds to rip Ray the Idiot a new anal orifice using language he learned at Parris Island, goes over the hill and grabs an ear and throws the 85 lbs- ish little doe up the hill and then drags Ray the Idiot up the hill by his gunbelt. The story made the rounds of at least 3 Troops by the end of the shift and Ray the Idiot spent the next several years hearing high pitched, girly type grunting whenever he walked into a room.

To this day I run into people who find out I was a Trooper and they say, "Do you know a guy named Ray ________?" When I say yes, the next question is always the same- "What the heck is WRONG with that idiot?!!!!!!" The guy is a legend I suppose....