Any ideas where I can get a mold to make these "caps" ?

[Rootmanslim]

Alex, Inc. adapter for 6.5 x 55 Swedish rifles: This adapter uses high velocity .22 LR hollow point bullets and 6.5mm dry-lubed lead "caps" that are pressed over the top of the .22 bullet. Thirty-seven (37) caps are included with this.

The "caps" fit over the 22 bullet and shoot out of a 6.5x55. The caps are hollow to fit over 22 RF bullet.

 

[Ian]

Those look swaged to me.

Converting one cavity of a .22 cal Lee mould to HB wouldn't be all that difficult if you had a lathe, but would be cost-prohibitive to hire done. Accurate could make the HB mould and Erik Ohlen could make the pin/fit hardware, prolly be into it for a couple hundred dollars before it was all said and done.

 

[Bret4207]

I'd want to shoot some and see if they work well enough before I made the investment, but Ian has the right idea. If you could find a swage press and have someone make the die, and it is a pretty simple die, that would work too.

 

[CZ93X62]

Interesting device. Those "caps" look like sub-compact HBWCs.

 

[Pistolero]

Working up swaging dies for pure lead would not be an extremely difficult project for someone
with a lathe. Soft lead with no lube grooves.....seems like they would lead the bore like crazy.
Cutting down a 6.5 bullet mold and adding a HB pin would do it, like Ian said. but not cheap without
your own machine shop.

There used to be plastic sabots (cups) for .22 rifle bullets to shoot in .30 cal rifles, but I think those
are gone, too. Factory loaded ammo, too. But they were going for ultra high velocity, this looks
like it is for low velocity, quiet plinking.

Bill

 

[Ian]

A hammer swage that converts 00 buckshot would almost be practical and yield about a 55-grain bullet not counting the .22 shoved up it's behind.

 

[Pistolero]

17/64ths drill into a block of steel, then a closely fitted pin with a .22 tip, hammered in, like
Ian said. Maybe make the pin on a drill press with a file and a lot of patience? Hammer
swaging sounds doable. on the cheap. Buckshot is a good donor of lead, if not hardened,
and most is not.

17/64th is .265, and if it drills oversized, may need to push through a 6.5 size die afterwards.

Bill

 

[Gary]

Look a lot like some of my .22 cal Pellets.

 

[Ian]

I don't see the purpose, really. It would be just as easy and a whole lot cheaper to buy a set of dies and a 6.5mm mould, use a liquid lube and Bullseye or Titegroup.

 

[Bret4207]

Working up swaging dies for pure lead would not be an extremely difficult project for someone
with a lathe. Soft lead with no lube grooves.....seems like they would lead the bore like crazy.
Cutting down a 6.5 bullet mold and adding a HB pin would do it, like Ian said. but not cheap without
your own machine shop.

There used to be plastic sabots (cups) for .22 rifle bullets to shoot in .30 cal rifles, but I think those
are gone, too. Factory loaded ammo, too. But they were going for ultra high velocity, this looks
like it is for low velocity, quiet plinking.

Bill

Do 22lr lead barrels? If those are HV they weigh 40grs and do what? 1200 fps? So add the pellet above it at another 40-50 grs and I imagine it's a 650-700 fps load, call it 850 for kicks. How much leading do you think?

 

[CZ93X62]

Not trying to be a kill-joy here.......but Ian makes a really good point, esp. if you are already tooled up for casting and reloading to begin with. Die set, bullet mould, sizing die. Done. I have had 6.5 x 55 rifles on hand for a long time (since 1999), and a Mannlicher-Schoenauer 1903 in 6.5 x 54 M/S prior to that. I have thinned the herd down to one example, a Ruger 77R that has GREAT dimensioning and a 1-9.75" twist. Very lead-friendly to 1800 FPS, and probably beyond that. I haven't tried it. In its .264" throat + a couple tenths, a 265" sizing die by Buckshot processes the Lyman #266469 Loverins quite well, and I can create ammo for a components cost of well under 25 cents per round that shoot under 2" at 100 yards--sometimes well under 2". Under the right circs, Lyman moulds can become useful.

 

[358156 hp]

I see what you're trying to accomplish here, it's not about the rifle, it's about the Alex adapter for that rifle. Get ahold of Erik at Hollowpoint Mold Service and ask him if he would convert a 264/6.5 rifle mould into a hollowbase wadcutter with a base that matches the nose profile of a pulled .22 bullet that you would send him. Show him pictures, and if he agrees, send him a couple of sample caps. This is far enough off the beaten path that you should probably expect to pay a bit over standard conversion prices. Then find yourself a suitable 264/6.5 mould for him to convert. Erik seems to do a bit of work with airgunners, and would likely be able to furnish what you want. I've seen him do crazier things.

 

[Missionary]

Good evening
If I am remembering right the "applied noses" are wax lubed. They could easily be tumble lubed or coated.

 

[M3845708Bama]

I'd want to shoot some and see if they work well enough before I made the investment, but Ian has the right idea. If you could find a swage press and have someone make the die, and it is a pretty simple die, that would work too.

It looks like a partial operation of making a bullet using 22cal hulls for jackets and not running them through the point fo Remington die! If that is any help

 

[Ben]

For me, it looks like an answer to a problem that I most likely will never have.

Ben

 

[fiver]

piece of cake.
all you need is a core mold.
easily made with a drill bit [260-262 is big enough] and a single cavity mold blank.
you can easily make it an adjustable weight core by drilling all the way through, adding a plate to the base of one side and a screw on a pin type setup. [I have one for 22 cores, I also have an adjustable 6 cavity core mold]
then you swage it to weight, in a core swage die of the appropriate diameter, a base punch will put the hollow base in place at the same time.

here is a core mold.

you could also just order .250 wire and cut it close to length for weight, and get custom core swage die and punch.

you'd be using something like the die on the top left [which is a core swage die, see the hole? excess lead squirts out of that] and the long punch to the right of it would be your base punch.
it would be custom for your diameter and probably run about 300$.

 

[Rootmanslim]

WOW ! I'm thinking 25 or 30 cal air gun pellets (polymags) super glued to the 22 bullet, maybe dipped in Lee lube. Would swage up/down as they are soft.

As for regular cast as an alternative --- of course ---- but that's not the point. Having fun is the point ---- same reason I shoot multiball roundballs in my 45-70.

 

[fiver]

you might could get away with a home made mold for the core, and a 'hammer' die from a modified lee size die and stem.

sharpen the stem to resemble the nose of the bullet and push the core in the die, then drop a punch in the top and hammer it to shape the bullet.
then push it out with another stem or punch.
the bullets wouldn't be too far out of weight spec if you weighed them into batches.

 

[Rootmanslim]

Yeah, that could work. Thanks !

 

[Rootmanslim]

Just got in some 25 cal hollow base airgun pellets. Worth a try.