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Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I've been using Ebay since the late '90's. I buy almost exclusively from US sellers with high feedback ratings. If it's not up at 98/99%, I pass. I have bought from Great Britain, Ireland, India and China, but only after researching my options. I'm not saying Ebay is perfect, but going to a knock off outfit has it's risks. And yes, Ebay may be a little higher, but there's a pretty decent system backing them up for when things go sideways. Worth it to me. But then, I've never bought anything off Amazon either, so take my position with that in mind.
blackthorn
Active Member
I bought an adjustable wench for changing the cutters on my zip-cut, to replace the one I hid from myself (found it about a week after the replacement arrived). Took awhile (covid dontcha know) but it got here and was as advertised. I would probably use them again if I could not find what I wanted in North America.
JonB
Halcyon member
I had never heard of Banggood until this thread.
I am looking for a belt sander. So I looked at Banggood yesterday. Most of the new belt sanders were the same as ebay, priced about the same, but there were some 24volt units??? On Ebay, I did see a NEAT, heavy duty cast iron vintage Wards powr-kraft benchtop horizontal belt sander on Ebay, but I haven't pulled the trigger yet...Shipping is stupid high...it has separate motor with belt/pulley setup.
As to chinese people/companies and ebay. I bought a couple copper rolls off ebay for making GCs. The Prices were in Canadian, supposedly shipped from Hong Kong, my paypal invoice was mostly in chinese characters...BUT, when the copper arrived within a week, instead of the predicted 3 to 6 weeks, I looked at the return address on the package, New York! ...and no chinese characters?
I am looking for a belt sander. So I looked at Banggood yesterday. Most of the new belt sanders were the same as ebay, priced about the same, but there were some 24volt units??? On Ebay, I did see a NEAT, heavy duty cast iron vintage Wards powr-kraft benchtop horizontal belt sander on Ebay, but I haven't pulled the trigger yet...Shipping is stupid high...it has separate motor with belt/pulley setup.
As to chinese people/companies and ebay. I bought a couple copper rolls off ebay for making GCs. The Prices were in Canadian, supposedly shipped from Hong Kong, my paypal invoice was mostly in chinese characters...BUT, when the copper arrived within a week, instead of the predicted 3 to 6 weeks, I looked at the return address on the package, New York! ...and no chinese characters?
ShamusSage
New Member
I buy my carbide inserts from banggood, they have "premium" options that work good, the ultra cheap gold colored ones are pretty bad though. The name brand kolory inserts I got were actually genuine, worked great. So I ordered them in bulk a couple years ago, they will last me years. I have lots of their blue coated inserts and they aren't that bad for the price. I like them for parting tool steel and they are very sharp for aluminum. The blue ones are cheap enough I don't mind breaking them occasionally on my little drill rods, parting tool steel is hard on inserts and I rather break an insert than a pricey parting blade. I also use their higher end solid carbide end mills, they are fairly cheap in price. They work better than I expected. They also have some really well made flash lights, my EDC torch is the single 18650 BLF special edition in a warm tent. Got it for $20 something, its amazing quality and performance for the price.
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I know your post is a couple weeks old, but I just saw this and wanted to share something about "old" sanders in general: MANY were not set up for dust collection, and most of those may/can be difficult to retrofit. Look it over and see if you feel like doing some extra engineering/fabrication.
I've grown so fond of dust collection and hearing protection too late. As a kid, you did what you had to do and sucked it up - dust, smoke, noxious fumes be damned! Only the wimps snivelled about such minor inconveniences! My ears aren't in any better shape than my sinuses, but at least I can try to keep them from getting worse.
JonB
Halcyon member
Jeff,
That old Wards belt sander is about as OPEN as you can expect...so no way of dust collection, even for a clever handyman. For right now, I'm only planning to use a belt sander for tool sharpening...but I'm sure if I buy the Wards unit and set it up, I'd use it for wood also. The ebay listing expired last week, and the seller relisted it. Right away, I put it on my "watch list", so I could easily find it, and the dang seller upped the price an hour after I clicked "WATCH"
Now, I've moved away from the thoughts of having a large heavy permanently mounted belt sander and will setup and use a hand belt sander bolted to a board, so I can mount it vertical in a bench Vice. That solves a few problem: One, I think I'll prefer a vertical belt sander. Two, I think I want it to run in a reverse direction than is typical with a benchtop belt sander with vertical capabilities (the Wards does not). Three, a hand unit will be spinning slower then a benchtop unit and I think slower will be better. Four, I have a bunch of NOS belts from a hand belt sander that I'd like to use up. Five, I don't want to give up any bench space for a permanently mounted belt sander.
>>>with all that said, I haven't started this belt sander project yet, but some or all of my sharpening thoughts could be stupid? I will likely post about it, when I get there, which won't be too long from now.
Lastly, I just made a offer on a vintage Sears craftsmen set of lathe chisels, and the ebay seller accepted it. While I am happy with the China made tools, for the most part, that I bought a couple weeks ago, I think I need one other small parting tool for fine work. I could modify the china tool to suit that need, but I may need it the way it is for others uses. The Craftsman set has one that looks better than the China set...leaving me with options. Plus they are American made.
That old Wards belt sander is about as OPEN as you can expect...so no way of dust collection, even for a clever handyman. For right now, I'm only planning to use a belt sander for tool sharpening...but I'm sure if I buy the Wards unit and set it up, I'd use it for wood also. The ebay listing expired last week, and the seller relisted it. Right away, I put it on my "watch list", so I could easily find it, and the dang seller upped the price an hour after I clicked "WATCH"
Now, I've moved away from the thoughts of having a large heavy permanently mounted belt sander and will setup and use a hand belt sander bolted to a board, so I can mount it vertical in a bench Vice. That solves a few problem: One, I think I'll prefer a vertical belt sander. Two, I think I want it to run in a reverse direction than is typical with a benchtop belt sander with vertical capabilities (the Wards does not). Three, a hand unit will be spinning slower then a benchtop unit and I think slower will be better. Four, I have a bunch of NOS belts from a hand belt sander that I'd like to use up. Five, I don't want to give up any bench space for a permanently mounted belt sander.
>>>with all that said, I haven't started this belt sander project yet, but some or all of my sharpening thoughts could be stupid? I will likely post about it, when I get there, which won't be too long from now.
Lastly, I just made a offer on a vintage Sears craftsmen set of lathe chisels, and the ebay seller accepted it. While I am happy with the China made tools, for the most part, that I bought a couple weeks ago, I think I need one other small parting tool for fine work. I could modify the china tool to suit that need, but I may need it the way it is for others uses. The Craftsman set has one that looks better than the China set...leaving me with options. Plus they are American made.
Dimner
Named Man
I mentor for my sons alma mater high-school's robotics team. Many of the FIRST robotics teams that we talk to buy buts, cutters, end mills, and what not off Banggood.
Two reasons:
1) they are extremely inexpensive for the decent quality received. Sometimes 8x cheaper than the USA mfg equivalent.
2)all of these tools last the same length of time as a quality made USA manufactured items due to one constant: teenagers. The concept of FIRST robotics is that the robots are kid, concept, designed, and built. Well, at least that's the approach we use on our team. We teach them the proper use of tools, but kids are kids. They cut too deep on a pass, or gouge something, or something else. Something happens to the tool that breaks or ruins it before the end of its normal lifetime.
When we buy tools that are for 'mentor only' use, its usually quality tools from the USA. For the kids to learn, practice and fabricate, Banggood is a great resource. When an end mills burns out I don't cringe any more because I know it was 3 bucks. And at that cost it's easy to give the teens free reign to learn by their own successes and failures.
Two reasons:
1) they are extremely inexpensive for the decent quality received. Sometimes 8x cheaper than the USA mfg equivalent.
2)all of these tools last the same length of time as a quality made USA manufactured items due to one constant: teenagers. The concept of FIRST robotics is that the robots are kid, concept, designed, and built. Well, at least that's the approach we use on our team. We teach them the proper use of tools, but kids are kids. They cut too deep on a pass, or gouge something, or something else. Something happens to the tool that breaks or ruins it before the end of its normal lifetime.
When we buy tools that are for 'mentor only' use, its usually quality tools from the USA. For the kids to learn, practice and fabricate, Banggood is a great resource. When an end mills burns out I don't cringe any more because I know it was 3 bucks. And at that cost it's easy to give the teens free reign to learn by their own successes and failures.
ShamusSage
New Member
I'll be specific on the Bangood items that are good, I have gotten some cheap junk off too.
I like these endmills: Drillpro 8pcs 2-12mm 4 Flutes Carbide End Mill Set
I mostly buy the 12 mm 4 flute endmills, the grey ones last longer than the gold by far. The "orange" coated carbide ones are good too, but probably not worth the added cost in 12 mm. I have a few of the orange ones in the small sizes and they are tough, good durability. But I use them on a fairly slow gear head PM-727 bench mill. The HSS endmills I got were not that good, same quality as eBay cheapies.
I use CCMT inserts from Banggood and these two have been consistent over the years:
Drillpro 10pcs CCMT09T304 VP15TF CCMT32.51 Carbide Insert
The blue nano version is harder, nice and sharp for softer work:
Drillpro 10pcs HRC45 Blue Nano CCMT060204-HM YBC251 Carbide Insert
I still prefer the PM turning tools though, I have their full set with boring and threading stuff. Good quality for Chinese sourced and Matthews tool holders are the "good ones" too.
All of my belt sanders are totally open, no dust collection possible. I have quality dust masks and a cartridge type breathing system too, but usually don't run them long enough to need protection. Its the surface grinders that put off the most crap in the air, mostly flood coolant mist. I just run exhaust fan and keep the air moving out. Ain't dead yet.
I like these endmills: Drillpro 8pcs 2-12mm 4 Flutes Carbide End Mill Set
I mostly buy the 12 mm 4 flute endmills, the grey ones last longer than the gold by far. The "orange" coated carbide ones are good too, but probably not worth the added cost in 12 mm. I have a few of the orange ones in the small sizes and they are tough, good durability. But I use them on a fairly slow gear head PM-727 bench mill. The HSS endmills I got were not that good, same quality as eBay cheapies.
I use CCMT inserts from Banggood and these two have been consistent over the years:
Drillpro 10pcs CCMT09T304 VP15TF CCMT32.51 Carbide Insert
The blue nano version is harder, nice and sharp for softer work:
Drillpro 10pcs HRC45 Blue Nano CCMT060204-HM YBC251 Carbide Insert
I still prefer the PM turning tools though, I have their full set with boring and threading stuff. Good quality for Chinese sourced and Matthews tool holders are the "good ones" too.
All of my belt sanders are totally open, no dust collection possible. I have quality dust masks and a cartridge type breathing system too, but usually don't run them long enough to need protection. Its the surface grinders that put off the most crap in the air, mostly flood coolant mist. I just run exhaust fan and keep the air moving out. Ain't dead yet.
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CWLONGSHOT
Well-Known Member
What really ticks me is this drop ship crap. I purposefully check US ONLY! I dont want Chinese shipping waits & customs and such. Of coarse, I also much prefer USA made.
When you select that & you dbl ck the shipping location. Then Place the order because the location was Lexington KY...
Then the PP come back that you see you just paid some chap named "xvjyicxzziyv" 19$... and you pkg will arrive by June 3..... My blood boils.
CW
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ShamusSage
New Member
Ebay sellers are using Amazon for shipping fulfillment too. Can't even avoid Amazon on eBay, at least the prices are less on eBay sometimes. Amazon kicked my gas check sales off their site years ago, perfect feed back too. They told me no ammunition components allowed. But now I order a firearm related product off eBay and it comes via Amazon often. Bullet molds are okay with Amazon, but gas checks are bad apparently if they are sold by me. Horanady gas checks are approved though, Amazon really doesn't like competition at all.
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I always check "US Only" and then I review their feedback if I'm not familiar with them. I do have to say that in desperation I ordered a set of gauges from India. They got here in less than a week! Not super high quality but $65.00 is way better on my wallet than $350.00. The only thing I purposely order from China is Pritchard Nipples because they're all made there and I order ahead of time anyway. I despise Amazon, use it for cost comaprisions only if possible. I did have to get, of all things, an inner wheelhouse for a Ford Escape from them simply because they were about $75.00 less expensive and SWMBO has a Prime account.