can i get a break?!?

Ian

Notorious member
If I can't drive I'm not going.

Pretty much my stance as well, for numerous reasons. I also have zero inclination to travel west of the Missippi, south of the Rio Grande, or west of Nevada with the exception of Alaska via Canada. There are places off this continent I'd really like to see, but with the world such as it is anymore I'll be doing my "traveling" through the video logs of others. Heck, there's a huge portion of Texas I've never seen and I've traveled and lived all over it all my life.
 

popper

Well-Known Member
If I can't drive I'm not going. That is what her BIL says, after carrier duty and FexEx til he retired. I don't fly anymore cause she won't. Don't think I ever got sick when flying, but that peanut butter salmonella sandwich ruined a business trip to Tucson. Got really surprised today. Went to lunch with friends, never been to this place before. Toward the end, waiter came and said our meal was gifted by another table. What? No Vet hats or anything, just a bunch of white heads.
 
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462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
There is no place in this or any other universe that my wife and I would ever want to visit that we can't get to by car, or by not crossing any international borders. That leaves the lower and mainland 48 states, we've only visited 13 or them, and I was stationed in two others.
 

BBerguson

Official Pennsyltuckian
Hope you get out of your bad luck zone, sucks to be sick.

I’m in the no flying crowd too. Also never had covid and never got their vaccine. Last time I flew was before 9/11, had no desire to do it after that.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
See the USA in your Chevrolet is my motto. Drove through the majority of the 48 continental states. Only lacking nine, those states sharing boarders with Florida and Alabama, including Louisiana and Mississippi. The latter two are just a hop skip and a jump away, but I have no interest.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
no flying..... LOL
man you ain't lived till you dropped [literally 400' straight down] over the Rockies into Denver in a plane smaller than a short bus.
forced to land in Casper Wy. by a sideways snow storm, or flew into a tornado in North Dakota on an 18 seat aluminum tube.

not all pilots are very good at keeping their composure, while uttering ohshitohshitohshit for 3+hrs at a time while white knuckling the wheel.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
Been in 19 states , basically Wyoming, Nebraska, Missouri, Arkansas, and Texas all points west to the Pacific. Illinois and Indiana. Been to Calgary AB CA and south into Front BC Old Mexico 120 miles south of Ensenada . I 10 goes further south in Texas ........ We flew everywhere we went from about 1976 on , but it's a completely different experience in a 235 Cherokee than a 7?? Boeing .

I once longed to touch the Arcs Treomph in Paris , and Victors Arch in Rome . I actually had a whole list of places , unfortunately when I said it out loud it went from an amazing 30 day tour of middle Europe to a macabre tour of death , hate , and suffering. Opportunity knocked and Lake Havasu actually scratched a portion of the itch with a few hours at London Bridge . It's not the same unless you know that the same stones are still there that parts of William Wallace overlooked. Yeah morbid , but to really touch the actual history !!! Would I pounce on the chance to stand where Napoleon stood or ride the same tour as McArthur, sit upon the stones of a Caesars throne .......yeah macabre . But I'd be gone in a shot .

I don't want to talk about the eggs I used to eat 2-3 at a time that taste so metallic now that they trip my puke switch . You can't imagine how I yourn for a ham and cheese omelette. No it doesn't matter if the whites and yolks are as one or separate nor the degree of done .
I've never had hot feet really always easily cold . I sleep with a foot blanket to be comfortable and my thighs sweat with much more than a heavy sheet if it's over 67-8° in the bedroom. Unfortunately I have to have at least a sheet over my shoulders or I'm cold ....... I'm not going to point fingers but I wasn't like that until I had the flu the week before Christmas in 2019 and it all jumped from a mild irritation to a massive escalation of every single everything I have going on since 11/21 . Maybe it's age . I also haven't seen a single ad for a J&J booster . Of course the office staff looked at me like I had 3 heads because I wanted tetanus booster...... After 3 bouts with pneumonia..... Nope ya ain't old enough. Okay , thanks .....I guess .
 

richhodg66

Well-Known Member
When I retired from the Army in 2012, I was done with international travel and also commercial flights. The last couple of years had me living as a geographic bachelor and flying all the time on commercial travel. Only done it once since, won't do it again.

I have no problem with flying but all the crap associated with commercial flights makes me swear off it. If I can't drive, not going there.
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
My opinion mirrors richhodg66's. I 've been to all the continental 48 states, some several times, several other countries. I refuse to be prisoner on a commercial airline again.
 

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
Commerical flights are not without problems but it remains an option for long distance travel in my book. I understand that not everyone shares that view.
Time is money, and that includes travel for pleasure as well as travel for business.
There are some tricks to air travel and while you are at the mercy of forces beyond your control, there are ways to improve your odds of success.
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
My daughter, son-in-law, and local granddaughter all got shot. They all got the stuff. My daughter and son-in-law each got it twice.
 

ScottM65

Permanent ban
I find it much easier to believe statistically valid data over anecdotal data. It's a byproduct of an engineering education.

My way of "knowing" seems to be working for me so far.


It's like saying your rifle shoots better because you 'broke in the barrel' but you don't have a clue how it would have shot if you hadn't 'broke in the barrel'.
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
If "not breaking in the barrel" means an increased risk of dying from somethinng preventable, well that chit isn't happening.

Not going to take the chance of getting a serious disease that might kill me when all the statistical data from believable scientific sources shows that the covid vaccine reduces your chance of dying from covid.

I will always choose logic, reason, and scientifically confirmable facts over conspiracy theories, paranoia, and unconfirmable anecdotal data as a way to make my life's decisions.

What and How someone else chooses to believe is their business.

Anything I say after this is just going to further provoke a discussion that has nowhere to go but in the sewer. I'm done here. Anyone that feels the need can get in the last word.