Evolution of a handgun hunter

Glen

Moderator
Staff member
An interesting thought occurred to me last night. I started hunting with handguns back in the 1980s, and very quickly fell in love with the Thompson-Center Contender. I started off hunting with TCs chambered for factory rounds, like the .35 Remington and .223 Remington, mostly in 14" barreled guns. A few years later, I started working with wildcat cartridges, like the 6.5 TCU. These guns served me well, and gave me a number of hunting adventures across the western US, especially for mule deer in the rocky canyons of the Snake River in eastern Washington. A few years later, I got into what might be called my "high performance phase", looking to flatten trajectories, and extend the range of my hunting handguns as much as possible with cartridges like the 6.5 JDJ, the 7-30 Waters, and the .308 Winchester (in the OT-SSP). I even went and designed my own wildcat cartridge (the .338 GEF). These guns served me extremely well, and accompanied me on hunts for pronghorn antelope in Wyoming, elk in the high country of central Utah, javelina in dry, dusty border-country of southern Arizona, and prairie dogs in central Montana. I've had some great hunts with these guns!

In recent years however, I have sensed a change in my hunting practices. I am no longer interested in making 300 yard shots. I am more interested in hunting heavy timber or stalking in for a close-range shot. Hence I have gotten more interested in compact handguns that can be shot offhand easily and brought on target quickly and precisely. And (of course), I am more interested in hunting with cast bullets. This has led me to all but forget about my 14" Contender barrels, and focus more attention on the more compact 10" barrels with low power scopes (middle-aged eyes with bifocals just don't work very well with open sights under low-light conditions in the black timber of the northwest). I didn't set out to do anything systematic here, but last night I realized that my last 3 Contender projects were all 10" barrels all set up specifically for hunting with cast hollow points, in .30, .35, and .40 caliber -- the .30-30 (160-190 grain cast HPs), the .357 Hartley (200-280 grain cast HPs), and the .40-50 Sharps Straight (240-310 grain cast HPs) -- all at 1400-1700 fps. These guns are all designed to be 100-125 yard sledgehammers that can be called upon in heavy timber to make a fast and accurate shot, and drop the game animal quickly and humanely, with a bullet that I cast myself.

Have any of you gone through a similar evolution?
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Not being a "hunter" I still went through phases, depending upon what kind of "fun" I was looking for! 1970 - 1975 it was PPC while in LE, then slowly converting to NRA Bullseye and International until about 1980. After a wonderful morning with Elmer Keith in 1976 it was magnums for about ten years for "fun" till it wasn't anymore. When the kids were teenagers, I was loading 38 WC's by the 3# coffee can for plinking in the sagebrush. After being injured in a fire and forced to retire, that ended all of my rifle shooting except for benchrest, and pistol shooting was just for "keeping my hand in" type stuff.

Then I meet a rancher that was a shooter and needed someone to control vermin during lambing and calving times. That lead to long barrel revolvers and small rifles for coyotes and cougars. Noise is really hard on the livestock, so hard hitting loads that are quiet became my "thing". Got to learn a lot about shooting at night and in and over snow. A 32/20 in a rifle with 115 grains at 1450 f/s is very effective out to 100 yards, as is a 357 rifle at 1000 f/s with a 200 grains bullet. The 45 AR with a WC or Keith 452423 at 700 f/s will knock a 200 pound animal down with a solid shoulder bone hit.

As an aside, I liked Glen's .40-50 Sharps Straight stories so well, I had C. Sharp's Arms build me a Winchester 1885 in that cartridge; mostly for benchrest target, but also if I ever wanted to hunt game again.
 
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RBHarter

West Central AR
I thank the stars the only magnum I had to have was a 3" 12 ga and a 357 . My shotguning changed in part because the nontoxic ammo improved (with hand loading it took 15 yr for commercial to catch-up) , but also because I I was noticing more and more that I was only shooting twice per flush or set . I switched to an O/U . I lusted for an A5 for a couple of decades ...........I've fired it 5 times in 5 years .......

I think we all go through a hunting evolution . At first it's a quest to fill the bag every time , then the trophy phase ,the if I do I do and if I don't I don't mentor phase and finally being happy to be part of the experience .

Trophy hunting takes many forms it's not all about the biggest rack ,fish or heaviest limit . It can be as simple 7 Drake mallards , or that beanfield buck from a family history stand with PopPops rifle .

Me? I have 1 harvest left that is really important to me . That is to take a big game critter with a pistol not to be confused with a handgun . I have a 45 Colts in a BlackHawk and the rush of sneaking 5 deer inside 50 yd on a hillside in eastern Nevada ............and blowing the shot because I blew it , is amazing . I'll settle for a spring pig .

I guess I hunted so long because I had to that I mellowed too soon . My 2nd deer was a 26" 4x4 mulie with Dad's rifle on what turned out to be our last hike hunt together . Age , life , family etc. I still have Dad for a while and we may yet share a blind again and with some fortune there will be for a day again 4 generations in camp .
That leaves me to coach a son in-law or 2 through a hunt and a gaggle of grands to get excited about the hunt . Sure I'm finishing up a bear slayer carbine but I really have no desire to hunt a bear on purpose . Nope I think I'm done with the evolution ...... Not so done that id be happy as camp cook but close . I have plenty of 3 generation hunts left in me and Mom and Dad are pretty good cooks .
 

oscarflytyer

Well-Known Member
Not with handgun hunting per say, but with handguns in general and all my long guns and deer hunting. Even shotguns. These days, as I get older, two rebuilt shoulders )R one nearly replaced) and less than perfect eyes, I no longer shoot any Mangelums - handgun or rifle. No longer interested in 300+ yd shots. And don't want or need the latest/biggest/loudest. I shoot almost exclusively cast bullets, and if I am not, it is mostly because I have not yet worked up a bullet/load comb yet. My handguns are now 44-40, 44 SPC, 45 Colt - all SAs w/ 4 5/8" bbl. Rifles are mostly levers in OLD calibers like 30-30, 35 Rem, 300 Savage, 45-70, couple of old pumps in same calibers (one a 1928 Rem Mdl 14 - THIS year's deer gun!). I am happy to hunt and shoot 25-100 yds, in the brush, which my hunting land is. And working to migrate to cast bullets with few exceptions. I really enjoy shooting cast, and hunting with them and just being in the woods. And w/r/t shotguns, I am currently refinishing an old Stevens Mdl 77 12 ga with full choke to set it up as my duck/turkey gun. Going to shoot the Kent Bismuth so the old fixed choke is not a problem. And I am really going to enjoy hunting with a 50 yo gun that was my FILs.
 

gman

Well-Known Member
My first hunting handgun was also a 14" Contender in 35 Remington. Have several revolvers set up for hunting. Right now I'm stuck on a custom 280 AI.
 

SierraHunter

Bullshop jr
I've been wanting to get into handgun hunting, but am not good enough of a shot to trust myself Hunting game with a handgun.
 

John

Active Member
I had a contender in the late 70's and foolishly traded it off for a PPC gun. My hunting has been the close range revolver type running from a 357 125 gr Jacketed in a 4" mod 19 to larger and smaller guns on Jackrabbits to Deer. I have never had a shot on elk with a handgun as I always packed a rifle with a pistol as an afterthought when hunting Elk. I see the two divisions in my Contender bbls, with 14" 30-30 and 44 Mag for stand hunting and 10" 357 max and hornet for portability. The 12" 7tcu doesn't know what it is supposed to be.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Started off as a bow hunter, before a gun hunter. At those relatively close ranges, a handgun is not a handicap, for me. I have taken deer with both, centerfire (44 mag. RH) and blackpowder (ROA).

Southern Michigan, only allowed shotgun or black powder, during the gun season. Later, they legalized straight walled centerfire handguns. Wife didn't care for the portability of a shotgun, nor the recoil of slugs......so she hunted with a handgun (45LC BH) and has taken two deer with it. Couldn't let her show me up so.......I switched also.

Nowadays, hunting my own acreage, in Arkansas. More often than naught, I take the 44 Magnum Marlin 1894 carbine. Most shots will be at bow ranges, but a rare 100 yards, wouldn't be out of the question. I don't practice enough, with a handgun, at extreme distances to be confidant of a sure kill.....and it's hard to get a stable handgun rest, up in a tree, for longish shots.
 
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freebullet

Guest
I'm trying to evolve but, my neck turns red & it's all over .

I do enjoy trying with handguns. Used my 6" gp100 to take a few deer and have more plans in the works. Great stories guys.
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
Took one with my 44 SRH many years ago. The. Decided to try with my BH in 45 Colt with irons. Got one with that too. In between was a deer and pronghorn with a 309 JDJ Contender. The pronghorn was at a ranged 235 yards. Very proud of that one.
Shot a few squirrels with a 10" K-hornet Contnder too. Some rabiits and squirrels with a Ruger mark 2 22 auto. Even a few squirrels with an iron sighted ML handgun. The ML with a pain as it reuired carrying a separate ramrod and such as it was a target pistol with no means to attach one.

I always considered the challenge to be as important as the sucess.
 

KHornet

Well-Known Member
I am glad that there are folks who are good enough to hunt with a handgun, and glad that I am not one. I limit myself
to min of pop can at 25 yds max and am more than satisfied with same. Only thing I have killed with a handgun beyond
paper and cans, was one rattle snake at maybe 15 yds, and a couple of PDogs at maybe 25-30 yds, and in both cases it
was with a Ruger Bearcat that I hip pack when shooting PDogs. I do enjoy shooting handguns, but first love has always
been long range varmint hunting, followed in the past couple of years (Thanks to Ben) to shooting PB cast at 50 yds.
Both are addictive.