CWLONGSHOT
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I like that one as well. You like better then the lyman?
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Found a Savage 340...
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Ian
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The main difference is the Lee one casts on size and has a long enough, correctly sized intermediate band to transition the nose to the body. The difference is in the shooting. I will say, however, that two of my .30-30s, which have tight bores and only a suggestion of a throat transition from the chamber, happen to like Fiver's Lyman bullets quite well. Anything like .308, BLK, or '06, not so much.
If your new 340 does not shoot well, it could be a candidate for reboring to 35/30.
My 340 works well with the Lee 309-160R sized .309 with either 12 grains of Unique or 20 grains of IMR-4198.
Tried a few 311299 sized .311 with 15 grains of IMR-4198; too long to fit through the magazine, but they shot well.
My 340 works well with the Lee 309-160R sized .309 with either 12 grains of Unique or 20 grains of IMR-4198.
Tried a few 311299 sized .311 with 15 grains of IMR-4198; too long to fit through the magazine, but they shot well.
CWLONGSHOT
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Dimner
Named Man
Late to the party I see...
I have a 340 in the good ol 30wcf. Lyman peep sight from long ago. Kind of a fancy sporter stock. The thing is heavier than sin. I never understood why it's so heavy. But it shoots really well.
My son took his first deer with it using factory ammo. It's fun for cast shooting. Given the volume of shooting, I use a NOE clone of the Ideal 3118. This was back when I did not have a PID and had difficulty getting good bases (bases without some bit of cratering). I did a bunch of testing at that time with the NOE 3118, an Ideal 3118 and a Lyman 311316. All bullets did very well with unique with a bit of tweak to the powder load. If you get poor results with unique, just increase by 0.3grs up or down a few steps and you will find a good load at your desired velocity. Makes for a great squirrel load. Easy on your dog's ears. Great field practice for the big dance (deer season with standard loads)
I have a 340 in the good ol 30wcf. Lyman peep sight from long ago. Kind of a fancy sporter stock. The thing is heavier than sin. I never understood why it's so heavy. But it shoots really well.
My son took his first deer with it using factory ammo. It's fun for cast shooting. Given the volume of shooting, I use a NOE clone of the Ideal 3118. This was back when I did not have a PID and had difficulty getting good bases (bases without some bit of cratering). I did a bunch of testing at that time with the NOE 3118, an Ideal 3118 and a Lyman 311316. All bullets did very well with unique with a bit of tweak to the powder load. If you get poor results with unique, just increase by 0.3grs up or down a few steps and you will find a good load at your desired velocity. Makes for a great squirrel load. Easy on your dog's ears. Great field practice for the big dance (deer season with standard loads)
Ian
Notorious member
The Lee 311041 COPY, a custom group buy mould from 10-12 years ago, is my favorite and shoots well in all of my 30-30s ranging from no throat to auditorium throat.
The Arsenal/NOE 311-170 with square lube grooves and NO step at the base of the nose, a sharp meplat edge, and tiny, thin rear band on the GC version is the one that has turned in many 1/2" groups from my 336 Texan.
CWLONGSHOT
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I need to experiment with powderpuff's. I found one I enjoy for the Marlin 32/20 with a 008 and PB. The bullet striking a tree is as loud as report and shoots like Dimners!
I have to check the actual bullet it do not look like a 041. So I may have wrong weight.
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I have to check the actual bullet it do not look like a 041. So I may have wrong weight.
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fiver
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the ones it works in it WORKS in, probably why i have like 19 hundred 30 cal molds.
if it don't work here it'll probably work over there, and once i slide one into the rifle that works i quit messing about and start doing the .01 thing.
there's only a few rifles kicking around anymore that are ''hey let's see what this one does''
Thumbcocker
Active Member
Some years back I loaded size "0" buckshot in .30-30 over 3 grains of red dot. Just rolled the shot around in liquid alox and let it dry. I didn't size the cases just decapped, reprimed, loaded and shot. Still needed to flare the mouth a bit. Seated the ball 1/2 way. The rounds would cycle through a Marlin.
Pretty decent accuracy out to 50 yards.
todd
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x2 with the 35/30!!!
i sent a post 64 win m94 in 30-30 to JES Reboring and he did a 35/30. he did a great job!!!!! it is accurate!!!!!!!!
i use the .311" ranch dog in my 30-40 krag and i've shot 7 or 8 deer and my son has 5 or 6 of them. in every case, the deer are DRT. this is the only rifle that does that. from 35/30 to the 45-70. , the deer run 20-50 yards until it dies.
my dad has a 340 in 30-30 but he uses it as a loaner gun. i have a rem m14 in 30 rem that needs it throat cut (no free bore) so it can use the RD.
CWLONGSHOT
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Shot this 30/30 allot the other day. Just a solid fun gun!
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CWLONGSHOT
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I used to see these and the 325's REGULARLY back in the late '80's to early 90's. Most of then 222 with occasional 30/30's sprinkled in. I bought a lil Sako from the owner of the shop. He said it wasn't worth allot as it was a 222 someone had rechambered to 223. Only 223 would not chamber. (Before I knew about cerosafe) A 222 would.. So I fired a 222. It came out a 222??? Apparently his memory or the story he was told when buying was untrue or faulty. He bought it back as I wanted a 223. (Stupid). I do have a Savage 24 in 222 that is a laser beam!! Shoots a cast 58g Lyman bullet into bug eyes!
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JonB
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I did something similar, decades ago, I bought a TC condender with a 223 marked barrel. the first time I shot it, it was like WHAT THE HECK?
turned out the barrel are rechambered to 223 Remington Ackley Improved. I flipped the barrel to someone else as fast as I could for a pretty good loss. Years later, when I got into reloading, I regretted that quick flip.
RBHarter
West Central AR
Maybe there are things I don't understand ..... But 223 , 308 AIs , and 280 AI NOS just don't make any sense ...... If you want a 223 hop up isn't a 222 Mag the thing to do ? 308 AI ummm ok so you can get like 70°/20° shoulder and add what .1-.2 gr of powder ? Yeah Nosler .....I'm just not even going there .
Oddly enough I do get resurrection of a dead case where it offers a whole window of potential in that whole reduced recoil/youth/ladies , maxing out the 55-62kpsi AR/MSR types that only died because of one tiny design error , see 25,30,32,35 Rem , 6.8 SPC and 22 NOS where they can also become a rimless anything in a 30-30 case .
30-30 AI another that makes no sense when there's the 30 Rem unless you wanted to go 30-7-30 Waters ...... Which makes my head hurt but would get closer to 308 in a 94 especially in a long barreled example ......
Oddly enough I do get resurrection of a dead case where it offers a whole window of potential in that whole reduced recoil/youth/ladies , maxing out the 55-62kpsi AR/MSR types that only died because of one tiny design error , see 25,30,32,35 Rem , 6.8 SPC and 22 NOS where they can also become a rimless anything in a 30-30 case .
30-30 AI another that makes no sense when there's the 30 Rem unless you wanted to go 30-7-30 Waters ...... Which makes my head hurt but would get closer to 308 in a 94 especially in a long barreled example ......
CWLONGSHOT
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One advantage to many AI chambers is brass life. That was buggest reason I did it to my 22 Hornet. There is a vel improvement for sure maybe 200 fps. But not why I did it.
The other advantage is factory ammo can usually be safely fired.
Preformance is another obvious advantage.
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The other advantage is factory ammo can usually be safely fired.
Preformance is another obvious advantage.
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todd
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i bought the 340(in the 222) in the early '90s. i "think" that 50gr Hornady sp with a little bit under a max charge of h322 will take a bug's eye out. i didn't measure it, but it would take a dime to cover up my shots at 100 yards(5 shots/bench). it was death on groundhogs out to 350-400 yards, on a windless day!!! i shot 6 or 7000 50gr bullets for about 3 years. i don't what the bullet count was because i bought it second or third hand.
i cleaned it with shooters choice and it was my first time that the patch was bluish green. i threw the hoppe's nitro solvent into the garbage and i still do shooters choice to this day.
when the accuracy fell off, i took the 340 to my gunsmith/friend/(RIP) and he told me that barrel was smooth and above the chamber was fried. tears came to my eyes. i should have re-barreled it, but in my youth, the rem 700 in 223 was strong. so traded the 340 in and bought the remmy. the 700 was a disaster because i could not shoot a bug's eye out!!!! the closest i got was 3/4" at 100 yards, but it averages 1" at 100 yards. i used different bullets, manufactures, powders, primers.......but i still couldn't do 1/2" at 100 yards.
then i started a new job, had a wife and kids and i just forgot about the 340. then 10-11 years ago, i had a bad stroke and now i have time to do it. i had the 22-250ai(tc encore with 27" MGM barrel) that could shot a bug's eye out, but i was more interested in the pupil. i have the 20 vartarg(tc encore with 23" MGM barrel) and it could shoot a pupil out, many times!!!!
then i got away from "careful handloads" because it got boring to me(and the time spent on brass, etc) and now i go to the "sloppy reloads". the 20vt can do a 1/2"+/- at 100 yards(5 to 10 shots/bench) with 34gr midway/midsouth hp and rel 7. the 22-250ai barrel i sold for a 500 linebaugh(tc encore 23" MGM barrel). i still luv the 222.