GC Question.....

CWLONGSHOT

Well-Known Member
The folks in these states DID GET A BOOST!! Its a straight wall over a SKATER GUN!!!

Nothing at all against the 35 Rem. Heck its a long time FAVORITE!! But it aint straight a d some Of these states REQUIRE STRAIGHT!

The Maxi was right on the Remmys heels a d the legend is a lil more then the Maxi used to be. So diameter diff aside. The Legend is a ballistic twin of the 35 Rem.
Also NOT taking into consideration loading the 35 Rem "super".

CW
 

L Ross

Well-Known Member
The folks in these states DID GET A BOOST!! Its a straight wall over a SKATER GUN!!!

Nothing at all against the 35 Rem. Heck its a long time FAVORITE!! But it aint straight a d some Of these states REQUIRE STRAIGHT!

The Maxi was right on the Remmys heels a d the legend is a lil more then the Maxi used to be. So diameter diff aside. The Legend is a ballistic twin of the 35 Rem.
Also NOT taking into consideration loading the 35 Rem "super".

CW
If only Winchester hadn't stepped on their own, ah, child, by handicapping it with that half witted decision to make it a 9m/m extra long in .355. I took one brief look and passed. Of course my State, (Wisconsin), decided to go rifle State wide, any rifle, and they have had no reason to regret it. Even by the most hand wringing, scaredy cat, chicken little rationale. Nothing happened, again.

Dove season. OMG, those mean dove hunters will shoot of the power lines with their .30-06's. Nothing. OMG, handguns for deer hunters. Blood will flow like the O.K. Corral when those likkered up deer hunters have shootouts in bars Up North. Nothing happened. Concealed carry? OMG, the horror of it all, humanity will regress a thousand years! Wah!!!! Nothing happened.

I can't wait until we propose a sand hill crane season for all of the surplus rib eye of the sky we have here. Sadly, we also have the International Crane Foundation in Baraboo. The Carrie Nation, Susan B. Anthony, Gloria Steinhem wannabes will be dusting off there Red Ball jets and marching on Madison crying that the evil men will kill all of the Whooping Cranes.
 

Tomme boy

Well-Known Member
Iowa is changing all the rules this year for deer. Some strange things and are getting a lot of heat. The 45/70 one is the most weird one. In a pistol it will be ok but not a rifle???????

Here is the article about this. They are including bottle neck cartridges in some cal.


Ever since getting the Ruger American Ranch in the 350, I like shooting it a lot better than the AR. Like CW said, brass life is very short if you try to get max speeds. Much more so that most other cal. I threw about 300 pieces away now that was shot out of the AR. Case head expansion was bad on even mild loads. Once that happened the primer hole was too large to keep a primer in. I had a feeling it was the throat being just like a throat on all modern 9mm pistols. There wasn't one. You get strange pressure signs out of nowhere.

The other thing I noticed on lots of forums was everyone going to a 41 CCI primer and pressure disappeared. Not for me. Well they were all shooting jacketed bullets not cast like me. But I feel that using them primers were hiding the problem. I have not shot the ruger a whole lot since I got it, I have too many other things going on.

I will say, this round can be EXTREMELY accurate. I have seen many 0.25" groups shot with it. Then the problem comes to repeating it!
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Michigan changed their firearm laws, pertaining to shotgun only areas. Those areas were considered more densely populated than the designated rifle areas. Basically, the southern half of the Lower Peninsula, was shotgun only. First, they allowed muzzleloaders as an alternate. Shortly, there after, straight walled pistols. The reason was effective range. Rifles/carbines longer barrels attain more velocity, over pistol length. Ego less effective range for pistols, supposedly safer for the populace. Since I moved, IIRC, they allow rifle/carbines in certain calibers. Don't really follow their laws any more.
 

Rick H

Well-Known Member
Michigan went with allowing the straight wall cartridges no more than 1.8" long and at least 35cal. Which effectively rules out the stock 45/70. Enterprising fellas just shorten the case from 2.05" to 1.8" and leave more of the bullet hanging out and shoot the exact same loads. I don't bother. I did buy a single shot 44 magnum which takes care of my needs when I hunt deer in the southern part of the state.

The funny part about Michigan rules is the "shotgun only" zone was only for deer season. You could use anything you wanted on varmints and predators, except during deer season. So it was always legal to use your 338 Lapua for whacking that groundhog in Grandma's back yard just so long as your town/city/burg didn't have a no hunting/no firearm discharge law.
 

L Ross

Well-Known Member
Michigan went with allowing the straight wall cartridges no more than 1.8" long and at least 35cal. Which effectively rules out the stock 45/70. Enterprising fellas just shorten the case from 2.05" to 1.8" and leave more of the bullet hanging out and shoot the exact same loads. I don't bother. I did buy a single shot 44 magnum which takes care of my needs when I hunt deer in the southern part of the state.

The funny part about Michigan rules is the "shotgun only" zone was only for deer season. You could use anything you wanted on varmints and predators, except during deer season. So it was always legal to use your 338 Lapua for whacking that groundhog in Grandma's back yard just so long as your town/city/burg didn't have a no hunting/no firearm discharge law.
Wisconsin was the same way, first shotgun only, then muzzle loader, then handgun for deer, but any rifle you wanted for varmints or fur.

But over the years deer hunting changed, radically. In the 60's when I started, we had only had deer in the southern half of the State for 20 years. Their numbers exploded as they adapted to farmland. On Opening Day, my brother and I would amuse ourselves by counting the seconds between shots that we could hear. Most years it was after noon before we could count higher than 1000-8! It must have sounded like a war, especially to the non hunting public. Everybody and their brother was out to get their venison. Every farmer and all of their extended family and friends grabbed their duck and pheasant shotgun, a pocket full of Foster slugs, and sallied forth.

Come Monday, the first topic of conversation at school or work was, "Didja get yer buck?" We'd see 80 deer on Opening Day running though our 18 acres marsh before a scrawny, 1 1/2 year old six point buck with busted antlers would drag his exhausted butt within range and the pump guns would open up.

Then as incomes rose, the guys that had put slug barrels on their shotguns started to buy, "Huntin' Land." Farms that used to let the neighbors put on drives got sold to hunters and posted. Farmers leased out huntin' rights. Drives became a thing of the past, heck, getting down out of your stand, (Wisconsin finally allowed tree stands), was bad form as you might scare the big buck off your land onto the neighbor's.

Seemed like nobody needed the meat anymore. People started paying butcher shops to process their deer. Guys talked about turning their whole deer into sausage and hot sticks, "Cuz their wives and kids don't like that shtuff anyway."

Now Opening Day you hear a shot hear and a shot there but few and far between. And well placed, scope sighted, rifle single shots at that. Never hear a fusillade as in the past. Most shots are directed at a down ward angle and the deer has to be a "shooter."

If I lived in Southern Minnesota, Iowa, or Lower Michigan, I would direct my legislators and DNR to look at Wisconsin and see that rifles are not the dangerous 4 mile killer that they fear. They are precision instruments, now typically scoped, fired by Hunter Safety graduates at well identified targets by hunters that pulled their 20 thousand dollar UTVs to the $3,000.00 an acre hunting land, behind a $70,000.00 pick up truck. Yessir, deer huntin' has changed.
 

Glaciers

Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
Yep, think "348 Winchester" in that context.

I've never messed with the European 9mm rifles like the 9 x 57 Mauser, don't know what its bullet diameter(s) might be. Here in North America, those RWS etc. components are likely very scarce and quite expensive--again mimicking the 348 Winchester.

Yup, but the 348 is best described by Brad Pitt in the movie Inglourious Basterds when he said it's "Merican"

Gosh, maybe someone should invent the .35 Remington?

The problem is the good old 35 Remington was not chambered in the Winchester 94. Yeah and I don't want to here about the 356. I'm talking about the regular 94 not the Big Bore 94. When I pick up a rifle for carry around here it's always a 92 or 94 Winny. Well the exception is the 1895 Marlin. I can make and occasionally exception.
And they never chamber enough 660 Remington's or model 7's in 35 Remington to be affordable in the aftermarket. I've thought about having a 99 Savage reworked to a 35 Remington.
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
Yessir--"'Murican!"

The 35 Remington is a fine cartridge. Its odd head diameter does it no favors (.460" vs. the 30-06's .473"), which it shares with the 6.5 x 54 Mannlicher and 6.5 x 52 Carcano--RCBS shell-holder #9 fits.
 

Glaciers

Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
Yessir--"'Murican!"

The 35 Remington is a fine cartridge. Its odd head diameter does it no favors (.460" vs. the 30-06's .473"), which it shares with the 6.5 x 54 Mannlicher and 6.5 x 52 Carcano--RCBS shell-holder #9 fits.

But that's only .013, or .0065 per side. If I remember I tried it in a standard bolt face and let looked ok. But I obviously really don't know.
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
No hands-on with the 35 Rem here. RCBS makes a caliber-specific shell holder, most die/tool makers spec the same S/H as the 30-06.

Some (not all) Mauser bolt rifle calibers vary also--6.5 x 55 and 9.3 x 62 use a .480" head size, and fit better in an RCBS #2 S/H meant for 30/30 WCF and 38/55. I want the closest cartridge fit possible in the shell holder, to prevent rim tear-offs and stuck cases.
 

Glaciers

Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
I guess I'll just have to settle for a 94 in 38-55. Damn the luck

Oh yeah, then there's those pesky gas checks. Drifted a bit I suppose. But good answers right off the batt, especially when you consider powder coating.