Good coverage but not too much of BLL

Landshark9025

New Member
I've attached a photo of what I consider the right amount of BLL after two coats.

This came up by accident. Unfortunately, I am cursed with "tinkerer's disease" and a constant "what would happen if....." loop in my head. The phrase "That worked. We're done now." never occurs to me. So, one day I was looking at a bunch of Tupperware full of 356-120 TC that were ready to go and thought "Let's coat them with BLL. Maybe that will do something." The problem I have with BLL is that as a new caster, you hear "don't put on too much" and "it should look like there isn't any there if you did it right. But there's a line between "not over doing it" and "not under doing it". And photos of finished products don't seem to show that well due to cell phone limitations, browser displays, etc.

So, my process is I mixed up some BLL and keep it in a Lee Liquid Alox bottle. I put 8-10 drops of that in the bottom of a tub, drop in a fist full of bullets. Using the bottle's spout as a dropper helps me be consistent. Swirl, dump on wax paper under a ceiling fan and repeat somewhere between four hours and a few days(depending on other stuff). I generally moderate the amount I put in the tub so that when I dump them, there is a bit of residue and somewhat wet, but not runny left in the tub. If there's a lot in the tub, I cut the next fistful back.

When they are on the wax paper, it kind of looks like they are wet- maybe. And when they dry, they kind of look like maybe they were coated- maybe. And they don't feel tacky or sticky- but they do have a different texture than before- but maybe this is because these were pre-lubed. And this is what everyone tells you to shoot for but it doesn't inspire confidence for a first timer.

Well, I put them back in the Tupperware, set them back on the shelf next to the others and said "Wait a minute........" Here's my comparison:
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Link to photo as I can't seem to get it to show up in the post: https://goo.gl/photos/uhWTFdKLetYkiAQ29
To me, the "before and after" helps. If you saw them on the wax paper, you can't tell a difference. If you see them in the tub by themselves you really can't either(this photo shows them darker than what they look like in real life). But side by side....

Hope this helps.

PS- if I'm wrong....now would be an EXCELLENT time to correct that. lol
 

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Ben

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When I roll ANY bullet around in a tub with BLL, if there is very much of the lube left in the bottom of the tub when I'm finished coating the bullets, I used too much.

Ben
 

KHornet

Well-Known Member
Words of wisdom Ben! I have two plastic containers that I have been using with
alox, and when you came along with BLL. The insides are nicely coated and I don't
roll the bullets around, I pour them back and forth, and find that I get a much more
even coating. After finish pouring them back and forth about 8-10 times, I want to
see little more than a trace of moisture on the bottom of the two containers. AND
I BLL every thing I cast. It just plain works on every thing, and what works I don't
fix! The finished products, have just a slight waxy feeling on them.

Paul
 

Kevin Stenberg

Well-Known Member
I am glad to hear someone else counts the drops as they measure out there BLL!
Landshark I also worried about too little on my bullets. But I get no leading. So the thought went no further.
 

JWFilips

Well-Known Member
Some times If I'm in a rush to shoot plain base rifle ( I usually only BLL these) I cheat with my "one coat" method and apply a few more drops for a thicker coat...but what I do is roll them an extra long time in the bucket. You reach a point when the liquid in the bottom of the tub gets tacky. So what happens to the bullets is that the lube groove gets completely filled with BLL but the flat surfaces just get a lighter coat. The one down side is you have wasted a bit more BLL in the bottom of your tub which you need to clean out and it would be best to wipe the bases on a cloth soaked with some naptha or mineral sprits before loaded, lest the light powder charge will stick to the base of the bullets.
These do shoot as well as the 2 light coats however I do see a bit more smoke and a smell more reimescent of 45/45/10!

BTW these too dry in a few hours under a fan
 

KHornet

Well-Known Member
Am not a real fan of the smell of Alox smoke. I did shoot a fair amount of 45-45-10 on a
trial basis, and it shot ok and accurate, but when BR and BLL came along, 45-45-10 was
quickly forgotten!

Pan