bruce381
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nah is real stuff I happen to know whats in it. white paper on performance.
gun oil/lube formula (LIM)
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Petrol & Powder
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That is ad copy designed to mimic a technical document and promote a product.
That is a marketing presentation. It is printed in a format to convey an air of technical information without disclosing proprietary ingredients. It’s well done but hardly a document that tells the reader WHAT is in “Water Wetter”, only what the manufacturer claims their product does. They are probably telling the truth, but they don’t want to tell you that the same results could be obtained without buying that $14/bottle of magic elixir that contains $0.02 worth of dishwashing soap.
Nowhere in that advertisement do they disclose the ingredients of their product.
As RicinYakima pointed out earlier, pure water with a wetting agent added (like dishwashing detergent) will yield a great deal of cooling capacity.
That is a marketing presentation. It is printed in a format to convey an air of technical information without disclosing proprietary ingredients. It’s well done but hardly a document that tells the reader WHAT is in “Water Wetter”, only what the manufacturer claims their product does. They are probably telling the truth, but they don’t want to tell you that the same results could be obtained without buying that $14/bottle of magic elixir that contains $0.02 worth of dishwashing soap.
Nowhere in that advertisement do they disclose the ingredients of their product.
As RicinYakima pointed out earlier, pure water with a wetting agent added (like dishwashing detergent) will yield a great deal of cooling capacity.
bruce381
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Corse its a marking add Duh.
But the guy that wrote it knows his stuff.
"but they don’t want to tell you that the same results could be obtained without buying that $14/bottle of magic elixir that contains $0.02 worth of dishwashing soap."
Nope wrong why would they tell you what's in it there are many other wetting additive's out there but Redline started it.
It is not dawn soap you have no idea.
I have been in the industrial lube mfg business over 48 years yeah what do i know?
But the guy that wrote it knows his stuff.
"but they don’t want to tell you that the same results could be obtained without buying that $14/bottle of magic elixir that contains $0.02 worth of dishwashing soap."
Nope wrong why would they tell you what's in it there are many other wetting additive's out there but Redline started it.
It is not dawn soap you have no idea.
I have been in the industrial lube mfg business over 48 years yeah what do i know?
Petrol & Powder
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OK, I'll buy
WHAT IS IN IT?
I'm not saying it is a bad product. I'm not even suggesting that it doesn't do what they say it does.
I AM saying that hype is to sell $1 worth of chemicals in a $14 bottle.
Pure water will carry more heat than an equivalent volume of water / glycol mix. But pure water needs a wetting agent to be effective as a coolant, which is why things like Water Wetter are added to water or a water /glycol mix to improve the effectiveness of the coolant.
WHAT IS IN IT?
I'm not saying it is a bad product. I'm not even suggesting that it doesn't do what they say it does.
I AM saying that hype is to sell $1 worth of chemicals in a $14 bottle.
Pure water will carry more heat than an equivalent volume of water / glycol mix. But pure water needs a wetting agent to be effective as a coolant, which is why things like Water Wetter are added to water or a water /glycol mix to improve the effectiveness of the coolant.
bruce381
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lot more think about the working environment of a car cooling system, heat pressure flow rate etc.
you answered your question:
"But pure water needs a wetting agent to be effective as a coolant, which is why things like Water Wetter are added to water or a water /glycol mix to improve the effectiveness of the coolant."
you answered your question:
"But pure water needs a wetting agent to be effective as a coolant, which is why things like Water Wetter are added to water or a water /glycol mix to improve the effectiveness of the coolant."
Outpost75
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Actually over 50 years ago as expedient cannon bore cleaner and CLP for deck mounted equipment exposed to salt spray.
todd
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Sea salt makes it taste so much better than regular salt.
But the other oil and gun cleaners are about what the 1990's produced. It takes copper and burned powder out. It might have before the '90s, but I seen, for the first time, A blue-green patch come out of my rifle when it was supposed to clean. So much for Outers Nitro solvent. The nitro solvent would take burned powder out, but leave the copper in. Shooters Choice, Gunslick's Foaming Bore Cleaner and Sweets takes care of my rifles. Ballistol and G96 gun treatment (CLP) does the rest.
But the other oil and gun cleaners are about what the 1990's produced. It takes copper and burned powder out. It might have before the '90s, but I seen, for the first time, A blue-green patch come out of my rifle when it was supposed to clean. So much for Outers Nitro solvent. The nitro solvent would take burned powder out, but leave the copper in. Shooters Choice, Gunslick's Foaming Bore Cleaner and Sweets takes care of my rifles. Ballistol and G96 gun treatment (CLP) does the rest.
Elkins45
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I’m very late to this thread but I might as well throw in my $0.02. 30+ years ago I was talking with a retired National Guard armorer who said he had been using the same lube formula for years, 50% ATF, 25% STP and 25% Mobil1 synthetic motor oil. Out of curiosity I mixed up a quart and have been using it ever since.
Snakeoil
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There is a product now called Water Wetter. It is what we used in our track bikes. No antifreeze allowed. Losing traction in a drag race is disappointing. Losing it in a corner on 2 wheels while doing triple digits is... well... painful.