H4350 for sale, cheap....

L Ross

Well-Known Member
Just imagine the angst of those flipper we were seeing in the last two years pre-Covid at gun shows. Those wonderful Wal-Mart parking lot dwellers that bought up everything in sight just before Madam Secretary was sure to be elected. Then they couldn't get rid of it. Companies were offering rebates. 9m/m at $169.00/1,000, Olin rebating $25.00/1,000 on cases of primers.

The flippers were desperate to unload their wares at bargain prices, and DID! Hardeharharhar! Just think of their tears as they contemplate the money they lost by not holding on until now.

I was at a gun show and helped an older than me fella with brain cancer price his life time stash of reloading supplies at a more fair to him price. He was going to sell 3 buckets of Lino at 25 cents/lb. RCBS Rockchucker at 25 bucks, and on and on. I was right near him and left my stuff covered on my table until we could go through his stuff.

I actually got guff from a couple of the gun show circuit regulars who were circling like sharks for, "Screwing up a chance at a good deal." Just another form of predator as far as I'm concerned.

He was very grateful and insisted on selling me his primers and powder at a very cheap price and I insisted that he try to sell it at a fair price first. For example we priced recent 1 lb. cans of 748 at 16 bucks, primers at $2.00/100 and it did not sell! This was in October of 2019. In the course of the two day show he managed to get 75 for the Rockchucker, 50 for a beautiful Lyman 4 cavity button nose wad cutter mould. He got a guy to take all of the Lino at a buck a pound. Dies went for 10 to 15 bucks a set. He managed to sell the vast majority of his stuff, except for the powder and primers. I guess buyers are leery of the, "second hand status."

At the end when we were packing up he came to me and thanked me again for my help and brought me a 30 caliber ammo can full of primers and all of the powder he had left. He had counted each primer in the partial boxes and marked them with a Sharpy. Same with partial cans of powder. He had weighed each can or bottle and wrote 10 oz., 14 oz. etc. He shot me a price so cheap that I tried to talk him out of it. We politely discussed it and he told me of his medical prognosis in terms of weeks or months. He said his kids had all the guns, none of them reloaded nor had any interest in doing so. He wanted me to have it, so I paid his asking price. As I am slowly using it up, I get a tad emotional thinking about him.

Even more recently, a dear friend who is fully cognizant of current prices, auctions etc. wanted me to help him get rid of his stash, also for medical reasons. He did not want to deal with the tedium of parting it out for the highest bid, but rather did I know anyone deserving of a good deal? I thought about it for more than a month, maybe two. The prospect just made me so sad. Then a couple of my young friends experienced the trauma of not being able to buy ammo for deer season. They expressed and interest in reloading but everywhere they had looked all they saw was, "Out of stock." A match made in heaven! These young shooters now have a load of stuff that nearly filled the 6 1/2' box of my F-150 for an extremely generous price. And we kept it out of the hands of flippers!
 

STIHL

Well-Known Member
I’ve bought stuff Over the last 6 years. Gosh at the money I have spent. I have a gold mine right now at current prices, but I won’t be selling anything to anyone other than a fellow loader in a tight. I love to shoot and I plan on being able to do so for many years. Now if I had 10 jugs of powder it would be tempting to unload it for a windfall.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
I've always looked at tools like this . If someone used them for a while there worth half of retail and adjust 25% for abuse or lack . If a guy knowingly prices an item well under market .....$35 8C H&G or 25 for an as new 45 ACP BH cylinder ... Then it's on them . I was at a show once and bought Carcano clips . A guy asked " you'll really give me $5 for 6 ? " and as we exchanged I said " the guy over there is asking $5 each" .
 

BBerguson

Official Pennsyltuckian
I probably have more stuff than I can shoot in my lifetime, but, I have an 18 year old son who loves to shoot so I may need to last his lifetime the things are going...
 

L Ross

Well-Known Member
Let's not forget the grandkids . . . and theirs.
Well before the time of the grandkids grandkids, they won't be allowed to possess guns or reloading supplies. Not being political, I simply believe in the inevitability.
 

STIHL

Well-Known Member
Well powder and Primers are drying up here. Very few powders left and it’s stuff most people don’t shoot or don’t know about. Picked up another pound of IMR Target. Going to try it in my 44 for some cast loads at special velocities. It’s suooosed to be a good 44 special powder, guess I’ll find out.
 

358156 hp

At large, whereabouts unknown.
So is the loading data for IMR Red, Blue, Unequaled, and Target actually the same as Red Dot, Blue Dot, Unique, and Bullseye? I've heard varying stories since they were introduced. I think the second-hand conclusions I've seen said that they are the same by weight, but not volume. Has anybody here tried them?
 

STIHL

Well-Known Member
I’m not sure I havent directly compared it to see how much difference it is but it’s supposedly good stuff from reading. I think some folks are still kinda scared of it. But there is data for it. I’m going to look at some more in a few minutes. I think that is exactly what it is competing with though.
 
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fiver

Well-Known Member
when they first come out the claim was they were a direct replacement, direct as in use the same bushing in your shot shell loader for the same weight and velocity.
that was totally false.
3grs of red and 3grs. of red-dot will be close-nuff over the chrono though.
 

Joshua

Taco Aficionado/Salish Sea Pirate/Part-Time Dragon
Just a little thread drift. I stopped at a bike shop on the way home from work. I need to true up some wheels and needed to buy a few spokes.

The owner of the shop told me that there is a bike shortage going on right now.

The sky seems to be falling everywhere right now.

Josh
 

Ian

Notorious member
OEM parts are in short supply in the automotive industry also right now. This week in particular has been Mopar 0W-20 synthetic oil and stop/start auxiliary batteries, backordered with no release date yet. Took three weeks to get an alternator for a 2011 Ram 5.7 Hemi.
 

Joshua

Taco Aficionado/Salish Sea Pirate/Part-Time Dragon
I mentioned that I reloaded, and that there were big shortages. We had a laugh when I compared primers to inner tubes. It would be like paying $100.00 for an inner tube.
 

obssd1958

Well-Known Member
It's not just the factories, the transportation aspect is out of sync too. Even if it gets made, it's harder to find someone who will take it into another state, depending on the different quarantine requirements.
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
depending on the different quarantine requirements.
Even after Daddy partially lifted his partial house arrest, any hotel/motel guests coming from out of state have to quarantine for 10-days.

Every Christmas Day, the Mexican family who live across the street travel to Mexico for three weeks. Yesterday, the husband/father went back to his electrician job after a mandatory quarantine.
 

Mitty38

Well-Known Member
Gave a new loader, caster, 25 lbs of my 11 BHN general plumbus alloy, and 150 powder coated 158 grain RF's to get him started. with his new .357.So he will have something to load till his bullets sit a while ( that alloy is about 8 BH till it sits, for 6 weeks then it is, 11 BH and grows .002)
Had to go get it for him, made the mistake of doing it at the gun shop. While others had walked in. It was like being flogged by geese. LOL
 
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fiver

Well-Known Member
my dad called me last night about finding primers up here, I guess one of the guys from his church was over and asked about them.
he thought I might have some out of the way hidey spot up here that had them or something.
I think it burst his bubble when I told him my out of the way hidey spot was down there in Salt Lake and I was not amused to have to drive down there to buy over 2-K in primers, when they were literally stacked up on pallets at 150$ a sleeve, a couple of years ago.
 

Mitty38

Well-Known Member
Was asked to sell my Stevens Shot Gun. Had Bought a 620 12 gauge with a missing screw and a bent Magazine tube a while back. Well, had all kinds of plans to chop it and cut it for chokes, yada,yada .
Fixed it. Then took it out to shoot. Ran smooth, shot a great 20 yard turkey pattern.
So tossed my idea of sawing it off and thru it in the back of the safe with 100 #5 shells, then basically forgot about it.
Any how, a fellow that borrowed it when we went on a Rabbit hunt, told another fellow at work that I had a "spare gun" I might sell.
So now this other fellow I work with is offering to buy. For self defense.:rolleyes:
Enough money to buy that new 20 gauge rifled barrel, I want for my 870-20 gauge. And an optic for it.That would leave me having every option of barrel or choke available for my 870. The last piece as they say.
But that would be way over what I paid for it and the sleeve of #5 shells. Even including my time to fix it.
Sure its tempting, but I will probably have to say no on principle.
Besides, If I sold it I would not have a loaner shot gun. Cause nobody but me, or my boy touches the 870.
 
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