Home sick so I cast a few bullets
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fiver
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it was a funny car from the 60's up to the early 80's
that's Pam in front of it and the car was known as jungle Jim.
here and in the avatar pic. it's a Vega.
the girl was known as Jungle Pam.
her job was to line the car back onto the rubber laid down by the burnout.
here a Camaro
a Chevelle and a nova.
and even a Mustang for a while.
that's Pam in front of it and the car was known as jungle Jim.
here and in the avatar pic. it's a Vega.
the girl was known as Jungle Pam.
her job was to line the car back onto the rubber laid down by the burnout.
here a Camaro
a Chevelle and a nova.
and even a Mustang for a while.
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Ian
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2,055 fps and 19,408 peak pressure. Would have thought more than that but I've been working with .30-30 and .308 so much the last few years my mind is miscalibrated.
I'm about to go down this rabbit hole myself with my new Tikka but it will be a while before I'm going to punish my shoulder with full-power loads. Might have to use my machine rest.
I'm about to go down this rabbit hole myself with my new Tikka but it will be a while before I'm going to punish my shoulder with full-power loads. Might have to use my machine rest.
Joshua
Taco Aficionado/Salish Sea Pirate/Part-Time Dragon
Yeah, my guess was too high also. That’s Okay! I’m still pretty excited about where I have gotten with these loads.
I’ve more experimenting to do with this bullet and different powders.
Do you know what bullet you plan to start out with in your Tikka?
Josh
I’ve more experimenting to do with this bullet and different powders.
Do you know what bullet you plan to start out with in your Tikka?
Josh
Joshua
Taco Aficionado/Salish Sea Pirate/Part-Time Dragon
Yesterday I loaded up some 30-06 with the Lee 312-155-2r over 36grs, 35.5grs, and 35grs of H4895. I got out today and shot a ten round group of each load at 100 yards.
The good, the bad, and the ugly! The best target of the day was also the worst target of the day, as far as group size. The 35gr load, the bottom target in the photo, had nine out of the ten rounds group into an acceptable round 3 1/8” cluster. I pulled round number 6 low and to the left. That one shot opened up the group to 5 3/4”. I just didn’t have the gun pulled into my shoulder very well.
The small amount of H4895 that I have left will go towards assembling twenty or thirty more 35gr loads. I’d be content to get these to group sub 3”.
The 35.5grs group(middle target) was almost twice as tall as it was wide. It was a 4 3/8” inch group that was 2 3/4” wide.
The top target in the photo shows the 36gr pattern, it measured 4 5/8”.
I need to work on my targets. I’m having a hard seeing the fine line that I’ve drawn on these targets with my 4X power scope.
Next powder will be Shooters World Precision.
Josh
The good, the bad, and the ugly! The best target of the day was also the worst target of the day, as far as group size. The 35gr load, the bottom target in the photo, had nine out of the ten rounds group into an acceptable round 3 1/8” cluster. I pulled round number 6 low and to the left. That one shot opened up the group to 5 3/4”. I just didn’t have the gun pulled into my shoulder very well.
The small amount of H4895 that I have left will go towards assembling twenty or thirty more 35gr loads. I’d be content to get these to group sub 3”.
The 35.5grs group(middle target) was almost twice as tall as it was wide. It was a 4 3/8” inch group that was 2 3/4” wide.
The top target in the photo shows the 36gr pattern, it measured 4 5/8”.
I need to work on my targets. I’m having a hard seeing the fine line that I’ve drawn on these targets with my 4X power scope.
Next powder will be Shooters World Precision.
Josh
Ian
Notorious member
I'm going to drag out and put gas checks on some 312-155s that I coated a long time ago just to see if I can tell what's giving you the trouble. I have only H4895 and am not too interested in using it for this, honestly. I think there are better powders. So you're at 2000 fps give or take. I don't have any SW Precision. I'm thinking 32-38 of RX-7 or 38-42 of 3031, for 2K up to 2.4K fps. When my neck heals up a little more, my plan is to see how fast I can go, already pushing 174 grains to over 2550 fps in my long-barreled .308s, so we have to do better than that in the '06 or what's the point, right? LOL!
Joshua
Taco Aficionado/Salish Sea Pirate/Part-Time Dragon
When I bought the Shooters World Precision, I also picked up a few pounds of RX-7. Is it really magic dust? A fast rifle powder that does things slower powders can’t. Will it do in 30-06 what it does in .308?
I was gonna go to a slower rather than faster powder. But why not, I’m having fun. So many rabbit holes. I’m probably gonna try both.
Josh
I was gonna go to a slower rather than faster powder. But why not, I’m having fun. So many rabbit holes. I’m probably gonna try both.
Josh
Ian
Notorious member
Found time between stuff to load and shoot a couple groups with the Lee 312-155. First group ar 38 grains RX-7 had the third shot way out at 4:30 making it 2-3/4". Was rushed loading and shooting the second group backed off to 36 grains RX-7, had a high primer (RCBS pocket swager making a stepped pocket, military brass, priming on Lee press, all things we've talked about lately) so only four. Third shot blew the backer out and backsplash of the hardened plate turned the target to confetti. Sent the last one into the middle of the hole but it didn't print. I picked up the confetti and put it back together as best I could. Looks like fhe second group is 2" tall and 3/4" wide.
38 grains estimated 2422 fps, 36 at 2323 fps from my system. I seated the bullets to the crimp groove and sized .3105" in a .310" die. No nose sizing. They had about .020" jump to the throat.
38 grains estimated 2422 fps, 36 at 2323 fps from my system. I seated the bullets to the crimp groove and sized .3105" in a .310" die. No nose sizing. They had about .020" jump to the throat.
Joshua
Taco Aficionado/Salish Sea Pirate/Part-Time Dragon
Looks good Ian. I'll be trying some of that RX7.
Also, that was quick. I am glad for you guys that have your own backyard/backforty shooting ranges. It sure makes load development a quicker process.
We have family plans next weekend. I probably won't be able to test any new loads for two weeks.
Josh
Also, that was quick. I am glad for you guys that have your own backyard/backforty shooting ranges. It sure makes load development a quicker process.
We have family plans next weekend. I probably won't be able to test any new loads for two weeks.
Josh
Ian
Notorious member
Hopefully I'll have some more time tomorrow afternoon to shoot more groups, part of today's interruption was making tomorrow's interruption part of today's so I could have all afternoon tomorrow. Working half days until Thursday so I'm taking time to play as I can. Thinking of doing the 36 grain load again and then trying 37. I have ten bullets remaining from that batch which are aged. The 159 grainers even at around 2400 are MUCH more pleasant to my shoulder than the 191s at 2000.
Ian
Notorious member
I said screw it and loaded all 10 at 36.0 grains RX-7. Reseated the primer in the last one from yesterday so I had 11 cartridges.
Tried a more traditional bench hold to produce the upper right group, then went back to holding the rifle with both hands and supporting my support hand with the front bag, also made a sight adjustment and shot the next six. If the feeble, out of shape, sore nut behind the butt could get it together, this thing might shoot groups. Was getting the hang of the follow through right at the end and tightened it up a lot.
Anyway, that's all I have for now, gonna work on a full-power hunting load and maybe some more subsonics for amusement and call it good because this thing is no fun to shoot even with these 80% loads.
Tried a more traditional bench hold to produce the upper right group, then went back to holding the rifle with both hands and supporting my support hand with the front bag, also made a sight adjustment and shot the next six. If the feeble, out of shape, sore nut behind the butt could get it together, this thing might shoot groups. Was getting the hang of the follow through right at the end and tightened it up a lot.
Anyway, that's all I have for now, gonna work on a full-power hunting load and maybe some more subsonics for amusement and call it good because this thing is no fun to shoot even with these 80% loads.
fiver
Well-Known Member
I'd bet that up and down is gun movement.
your a lefty is evident in the bump and run of the lower left group.
I get that same thing if the rifle is roughing me up some,[or if I'm hunched on the bench] I tend to bump forward instead of sucking the rifle in tight and rolling with it.
your a lefty is evident in the bump and run of the lower left group.
I get that same thing if the rifle is roughing me up some,[or if I'm hunched on the bench] I tend to bump forward instead of sucking the rifle in tight and rolling with it.
Joshua
Taco Aficionado/Salish Sea Pirate/Part-Time Dragon
Ian,
I sure hope you didn’t spring a leak! Good looking groups, pretty good for a guy who had a grapefruit cut out of his neck a few weeks ago. I bet it feels good to be back in the saddle again!
This past Sunday my friend and I started off shooting at 50 yards. He and his father inherited a sporterized K98 in 25-06, that had belonged to his grandfather. I was shooting a few left over 30-06 loads, the Lyman 311290(215gr) and the 312-155-2r(162gr) over 19gr of 2400. I got a chance to shoot a group with the 25-06(Factory Remington 120gr core-lokts). He had also brought his 18” barreled .308, that has a huge muzzle break on it. I shot all of these in the course of about twenty minutes.
The difference in felt recoil was really quite interesting between these four loads. I understand the physics, I understand the math, however the little kid in me still thinks it’s funny that the hardest kicking load was also the slowest. That 215gr bullet pushes back.
Josh
I sure hope you didn’t spring a leak! Good looking groups, pretty good for a guy who had a grapefruit cut out of his neck a few weeks ago. I bet it feels good to be back in the saddle again!
This past Sunday my friend and I started off shooting at 50 yards. He and his father inherited a sporterized K98 in 25-06, that had belonged to his grandfather. I was shooting a few left over 30-06 loads, the Lyman 311290(215gr) and the 312-155-2r(162gr) over 19gr of 2400. I got a chance to shoot a group with the 25-06(Factory Remington 120gr core-lokts). He had also brought his 18” barreled .308, that has a huge muzzle break on it. I shot all of these in the course of about twenty minutes.
The difference in felt recoil was really quite interesting between these four loads. I understand the physics, I understand the math, however the little kid in me still thinks it’s funny that the hardest kicking load was also the slowest. That 215gr bullet pushes back.
Josh
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fiver
Well-Known Member
two years back I shot a little buck across from one mountain to the other using a stick for a front rest.
I remember seeing his reaction through the scope and my first thought was the recoil on that 100gr. bullet going right at 3-K fps was exactly the same as one of my 30 cal. cast bullet rifles at 1900 fps.
I remember seeing his reaction through the scope and my first thought was the recoil on that 100gr. bullet going right at 3-K fps was exactly the same as one of my 30 cal. cast bullet rifles at 1900 fps.
Joshua
Taco Aficionado/Salish Sea Pirate/Part-Time Dragon
A few friends and I went out to the National Forest today and emptied a whole lot a brass. Mostly ARs and pistols; I’m always the weirdo with my 100+ year old M1917.
I have been nursing a bad back for the last month and finally felt like I was strong enough to get back out there. Wouldn’t you know that it would be on a Sunday with an Air Quality Index over 200. I know that the smoke is worse south of us down in Oregon, but it was still pretty thick here today.
This morning I loaded up some 30-06 rounds with the Lee 312-155-2R, powder coated w/GC, over 36 grains of Reloder 7. Shooting was done at 60 yards from the prone position off of sandbags. It was going great, three shots all in one hole, epic really for me, and then I pulled shots four and five. In the end I pushed this bullet faster then ever before(by Ian’s estimate 36 grains of RX-7 should be going 2323 fps), with a group size (2 1/8”) that was acceptable to me.
I would love to shoot this load off of a good bench at the range. I think that I could tighten up this group size. They won’t open the ranges back up until we get to “COVID” phase 3.
I also shot two quick groups with the Lyman 311290 over 16gr of 2400. This was an all powder coated bullets with and without gas check test. The gas checked group was significantly tighter. The without gas check group was larger but not quite a shotgun pattern. I shot these two groups quite fast, and the gas check group was shot second from a hot barrel.
All in all a fun day was had up in the smoky mountains (not capitalized).
Josh
I have been nursing a bad back for the last month and finally felt like I was strong enough to get back out there. Wouldn’t you know that it would be on a Sunday with an Air Quality Index over 200. I know that the smoke is worse south of us down in Oregon, but it was still pretty thick here today.
This morning I loaded up some 30-06 rounds with the Lee 312-155-2R, powder coated w/GC, over 36 grains of Reloder 7. Shooting was done at 60 yards from the prone position off of sandbags. It was going great, three shots all in one hole, epic really for me, and then I pulled shots four and five. In the end I pushed this bullet faster then ever before(by Ian’s estimate 36 grains of RX-7 should be going 2323 fps), with a group size (2 1/8”) that was acceptable to me.
I would love to shoot this load off of a good bench at the range. I think that I could tighten up this group size. They won’t open the ranges back up until we get to “COVID” phase 3.
I also shot two quick groups with the Lyman 311290 over 16gr of 2400. This was an all powder coated bullets with and without gas check test. The gas checked group was significantly tighter. The without gas check group was larger but not quite a shotgun pattern. I shot these two groups quite fast, and the gas check group was shot second from a hot barrel.
All in all a fun day was had up in the smoky mountains (not capitalized).
Josh
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