My new pistol scope.

Ben

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I have about a dozen pistol scopes. A lot of them are 2X scopes.
When I'm shooting my T/C Super 14" , 30-30 at 100 yards, I need more magnification than a 2X or a 4X pistol scope can deliver.

Today, I went to the B'ham Gun Show.
I found an old USA model, Burris 7X , Target Model pistol scope with an A/O . The scope showed no signs of abuse and had crystal clear optics.

I negotiated a fair price with the owner and brought it home to put on my Super 14, 30-30.

If you like to shoot cast bullets, this is the one ! !

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Rick

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That would be a far better scope for me. Every low power scope, 2 -4 power makes the target look to me to be a quarter the size and three times as far away. Just can't use them. I work up revolver loads from the bench with a 12X Burris at 150 and 200 yards.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Ben, I have had a couple of these when I was learning to shoot Contenders. They were very reliable and I liked the repeatability of the adjustments. It will take some practice to get used to the "quivers" shooting with it, but it is doable with practice. (Only us old guys shake, kids have nerves of steel!)
 

Ben

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You need a steady hand to use this 7X ! !

What is the old one......." If you can't see it, you can't hit it."

Ben
 

Dale53

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I have a bit different take on it. When hunting with a handgun, I need a low powered scope so I can shoot it offhand. It is still MUCH easier to use than open sights and has more precision.

My favorite reticle for hunting is a large dot (my Model 29 has a two powered big dot Burris on it). That combination has ten thousand rounds through it.

The dot just seems to hold right where I want it to on a deer...

FWIW
Dale53
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Dale, That is why I said "had". Now I only have two Contenders and both have Leupold 2X's, as that is the most I can use off-hand. Contenders are now my varmint handguns, one 22 LR and one 30/20. If I'm going to shoot more than 50 yards, I take a rifle. Ric
 

JSH

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The 7x and 10x are not a true handgun scope but will work, I have several. They are marked as IER, intermediate eye relief, rather than EER, extended eye relief.
Be careful as you will find yourself creeping up on the eye piece.
The Burris 5X are good piece of glass also with more eye relief. They have AO and TT on them also.
I have used about every handgun scope out there at one time or another. As a good all around piece of glass the Bushnell 2-6 elite is what I prefer. The Trophy model is ok, but you give up some clarity,eye relief and field of view.
IHMSA can give a scope a real work out. Some folks will just change their hold on the target, which I have found to bite you in varying light conditions. So, I change elevation settings for every distance. My original first year production B&L is going strong, I would guess in excess of 30,000 rounds of 7TCU and 30-30.
I have read mixed emotions on these. I have another Bushnell that has been on either a 45-70 or 44 magnum both fed a steady diet of heavy loads.
Then to further bump these, my friend used not a Leupold but a Bushnell Elite 2-6 to win the IHMSA, UAS class internationals numerous times,against dozens of shooters from around the globe. However I know he has sent it in for repair at least once.
As mentioned some of the lower powered glass will act more as a cross hair in a tube. Optics are not for everyone for sure. They can some times frustrate a situation more rather than fix it.
I have shot some very good groups off the bags in years past, but it did not come quick or easy.
The way the gun rides the bags along with what happens under recoil can frustrate a person really bad. There are various ways and methods out there to do it.
I have said it before and will say it again. When working with the TC platform, anything you know or think you know about other guns, doesn't apply to these. That goes for loading and bench technique.
I searched for 1"@100m for a long time. FYI doing it once doesn't make it or me a 1" gun. I wanted one that would do it on demand with its load, several barrels later and several years I got it in a 30-30 factory barrel. The 7TCU would never do it with any kind of rhyme or reason.
Buddy bought a 30-30 custom and I think with the right lube it would shoot rocks into an inch. So there is something to be said for a custom barrel to save time and money in the long run. You can spend the $$ up front and get a proper chamber and throat,
or spend it in time and load work later with a factory tube AND that is a maybe.
One other thing I found on glass, it doesn't take the misses out,lol.
Jeff
 

Pistolero

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What is the eye relief on that scope? I'm thinking it is a regular rifle scope, so something like
3-4" eye relief?

How does that work with shooting position and recoil?

I am guessing that you are not shooting too hot loads, so recoil might be low.

Bill
 

Ben

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I'm guessing 4" plus.
I'll mostly " paper punch " with this one off sand bags.
That aspect won't be an issue with me.
I have many 2 X pistol scopes if I want to hunt.

Ben
 

Ben

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I am guessing that you are not shooting too hot loads, so recoil might be low.

Good guess ! !:):)

One of my favorite loads in my 30-30 Win., Super 14 right now is the SAECO # 315 g/c with 7.2 grs. of B'Eye. It is a nail driving load.
 

Pistolero

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OK, I was wondering how that would work with a full power .30-30 load in a handgun!
You had me a bit worried about a REAL scope cut.

Bill