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Rally

NC Minnesota
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Started moving some water from the big pond today. I've taken five beaver out of here so far, an adult pair and three pups. Two have been black in color. Note the lack of snow or ice! It was 67 degrees today and has melted all the snow, so a good day to get the dams ready to move some water. I'm thinking there is at least one more pup here, but with all the wolf tracks on the road, maybe not. Have already lowered the water level in both ponds about a foot now and this digging today should drop them an additional foot or so. I've got the tailpiece dug out now, so won't take much additional digging to get it drained.
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One of the four beaver I caught today, all black.
 
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Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
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Ya know, they would stop repairing the dams if some jerk would stop tearing them out!
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
Ya know, they would stop repairing the dams if some jerk would stop tearing them out!
You see the one on the wheeler? He thought he was going to patch it!

Rally, I'm sure this stretch of weather must be an unexpected bonus.
Yep. It's tough trapping when it will neither freeze, so I can get on the ice, nor thaw, so I can use more types of sets. Either way I can get them out, but tough when it does both in a week or so. The water is a tad cold for a swim this time of year!
Beaver also don't seem to like thin ice either. I believe it would cut them if they came up through it or submerge at the wrong angle. I've seen Otter and Muskrats with cuts on their noses I suspect were from ice cuts also. Pretty common to see bubble trails under skim ice that go from open holes to spillways, or areas with some current and no ice. Doesn't take much ice to hold a Muskrat and they leave new feed beds on the edges of open water often, but takes much thicker ice to hold a 35 lb beaver, and for sure a 210 lb trapper carrying a 35 lb beaver.
Otter make pretty quick work of thin ice, and just push their heads right through it. It's quite comical to watch a family of Otter hunting mud minnows in a pond that just froze over. They surface with a minnow in their mouth, make a noise that sounds like Cha -cha-cha as the tails go down, then submerge again. A family of 3 or 4 make the surface ice look like Swiss Cheese in short order. They are about the strongest animal I know of pound for pound. They are pretty much a hydraulic piston with fur on it, and a real rodeo to turn one loose alive, especially when caught in a snare 6-9' long. Yee Haw.

I bet that that ATV and your canoe make your job much easier. They are just as important as your rake and chest waders.
For sure Kevin. The canoe gets me in the ditches and small lakes where a boat won't go, and the wheeler gets me closer than I can get with the truck. Both carry more weight and equipment than I can, and make bringing caught animals out much easier. Same for the snowmobile after freeze up. I don't mind walking, but carrying out beaver very far is tough, especially when I've caught several at the same location, and the carcasses of beaver are worth more than the fur right now. Sold nine today.
 
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CZ93X62

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You see the one on the wheeler? He thought he was going to patch it!


Yep. It's tough trapping when it will neither freeze, so I can get on the ice, nor thaw, so I can use more types of sets. Either way I can get them out, but tough when it does both in a week or so. The water is a tad cold for a swim this time of year!
Beaver also don't seem to like thin ice either. I believe it would cut them if they came up through it or submerge at the wrong angle. I've seen Otter and Muskrats with cuts on their noses I suspect were from ice cuts also. Pretty common to see bubble trails under skim ice that go from open holes to spillways, or areas with some current and no ice. Doesn't take much ice to hold a Muskrat and they leave new feed beds on the edges of open water often, but takes much thicker ice to hold a 35 lb beaver, and for sure a 210 lb trapper carrying a 35 lb beaver.
Otter make pretty quick work of thin ice, and just push their heads right through it. It's quite comical to watch a family of Otter hunting mud minnows in a pond that just froze over. They surface with a minnow in their mouth, make a noise that sounds like Cha -cha-cha as the tails go down, then submerge again. A family of 3 or 4 make the surface ice look like Swiss Cheese in short order. They are about the strongest animal I know of pound for pound. They are pretty much a hydraulic piston with fur on it, and a real rodeo to turn one loose alive, especially when caught in a snare 6-9' long. Yee Haw.


For sure Kevin. The canoe gets me in the ditches and small lakes where a boat won't go, and the wheeler gets me closer than I can get with the truck. Both carry more weight and equipment than I can, and make bringing caught animals out much easier. Same for the snowmobile after freeze up. I don't mind walking, but carrying out beaver very far is tough, especially when I've caught several at the same location, and the carcasses of beaver are worth more than the fur right now. Sold nine today.

That is so weird to me--their carcasses (castor, I'm guessing) being worth more than a pelt.
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
Castor is $95 a lb. semi dried last Monday. I sell the carcasses to guys using it for trapping bait for Fisher, Marten, Bobcat, or deer hunters seeing more wolves than deer on their trail cams, for $3 each nose count. Dried beaver are being weighed now, and fetches $7 lb for the hatter market, if you can find a buyer. Takes me about 1.25 hours to skin, flesh, nail, dry, then pull the nails, and comb, then some transportation costs to market them. Average run of castor, takes about 7 to make a pound, six to make a pound from spring beaver, and takes about 20 seconds to cut them out of the beaver! Very few beaver being produced currently except by nuisance trappers, and Canadians harvesting just enough to fill their quotas, to keep their registered lines.
There are some seasonal and shallow markets for skulls, teeth, livers, kidneys, hearts, toe bones, and claws but all real shallow markets.
 

RKJ

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Rally, I wanted to tell you, I'm really enjoying this thread. It's very interesting and entertaining.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
I bought one of his tanned pelts and an very happy with it. Makes a great decoration for my library/gun room.
 
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Rally

NC Minnesota
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Went back in to the forestry contract today, and this ^^is what the notch I started looked like at the big dam. Note in top left side of notch, there is the end of a log. That log is about 20' long and shaped perfectly to the dam, or more likely the dam built behind the log, curves and all. I had to dig that one out, get it pried out of the way with my fork, then just float it about three feet to the left (East). It made a nice seat for my smoke breaks! Too many rocks around it to use the chainsaw. Note the water height in the notch in relation to the top of the dam.
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This ^^ is after I opened it up, and I'm standing on the trail/ road when I took the picture. Compare the water height in the notch to the pic above. It's like the water rises in the notch as the pressure/ volume increases.
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This ^^ is looking downstream from the dam. Note the ramps somebody made to span the washout in the road. I moved them so they wouldn't wash away. Real well built, treated 2x6 lumber frame and metal handles. Forester had no idea who put them there. They should work well once the water recedes. Back to the smaller dam.
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This ^^ is the smaller pond, where the big piece of floating bog parked itself on top of the 36" culvert. I had to locate the culvert by probing with the handle on my beaver fork, until I heard it hit the culvert, or what I thought was the culvert. My first attempt was a slight miss to the left, and the false sounding was part of the rip rap just to the East of the culvert. Didn't matter anyway, because I had to dig it all out to get the pipe open and the water flowing. The culvert was down about 30" in that loon poop/ sticks, and the floating bog had anchored itself on a stump I think. I couldn't move it at all, and for the most part, it was quite "loose" on the surface. If you don't know what that is growing on the top of that bog piece, it's "begger Lice/ stick tights/ poke you all day, and I had to get it all over my shirt! Took five minutes when I was done to scrape the damn things off my shirt with my pocket knife. The two sticks standing up are about a foot out from the culvert end, and work as a guide to where I need to dig. Once I got the top of the culvert clean off I had a solid place to stand and just kept raking that loon poop and wads of grass out. Finally got a spot in front of the culvert dug out about 5' deep then started poking a long pole , at an angle, into the culvert mouth. I felt the pole go through and it started pulling water. A little more raking and she busted open and started pulling all that loon poop and small sticks rather briskly. I just stood in the water and raked the loose stuff away from the sides of the floating bog, to create a channel coming from both directions. Wasn't long and I was standing on a sand bottom. Glad that one is done, and it will take a hoe in there to move the rest of that floating bog, but the water may move a great deal more of it too, because it really was quite loose in construction.
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This ^^ is what it looked like when I left. Look at the corners of the culvert to get an idea of how much the culvert is drawing. If the bog stays in place it should drain well.
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This ^^ is the downstream side of the culvert, and all that stuff out in the water is what was in the culvert and washed out. That long stick partially sticking out of the water is still half way in the culvert, and there were several more just like it all bound together with wads of grass.
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This ^^ is what it looked like once I cleaned out the culvert contents to give it a clean tailpiece or free flow.
Both of these ponds are currently connected, but originally had their own water supply, via run off creeks. They both also flow to the same place, a series of beaver ponds. The first pond is roughly twice the size of the large one pictured here, then into a second a little smaller, then into a third, which is roughly an acre in size. Then the outlet stream flows almost straight north to a series of man made CC ditches, like several of those farther up in this post. This series of ditches flow predominantly SW to the Snake River, but in west, then south, then west ,then south, then SW to the river. Multiple dams, like in the high 40's, just in the ditches. To the West of this area I just trapped is also a series of ponds, that are also connected, have their own dams, and flow to the West into the same series of ditches. The Forestry wants to get the water out of here, and have me trap the beaver, to recover some of the timber. The Forestry is responsible for "reasonable access" for timber sales sites, and the county is responsible for maintenance of the ditches. Sooooo, if I get them together, to get a winter contract, this should be a winters trapping effort on snowmobile, then a bunch of canoeing in the spring to remove the dams in the ditches. Stay tuned!
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While I was in there today at the smaller of the two ponds, I caught the lady of the house. Since I tore her dam out, and me being the gentleman I am, I offered her a ride out. :) She made seven out of the two ponds. Five out of the big pond and just two out of the small pond. The interesting thing about that, is that the two biggest beaver came out of the little pond, and she had nursed pups this last spring, but there was no evidence of them being there. No small tracks in the fresh mud on the dam, no small teeth marks on chewed sticks, none trapped there. The big pond had two adults and three pups. Fresh wolf tracks in the mud, on the road, each time I was in there.
 
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JWFilips

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I know Rally started this thread but I have had fun jumping in and crashing it from time to time! :rolleyes:
with the virus situation I do not get into my office and studio often: Trying to be retired but still service my 5 or so biggest clients ( they do not like the idea of me retiring) is an ongoing issue. A few I can work on location or a their jobsites......Enclosed studio shoots are only for Highlights for Children and their sister publication High 5.
This time of year brings back my big Equestrian Company for their yearly catalog ( English Ridging Supply)
So I had to get off my butt working from home and get into the studio the past few days...seems partial retirement does not recognize weekends!
Photographing "Horse Clothing" is not very exciting ...my "Pantomime Horse" Shadow.... ( he always wanted to be black) was the only company I had during the long photo shoot sessions!
Took a snap of me and Shadow with his new Ensemble!
( Excuse the Covid weight gain! My wife thinks I should be a shame to post this!)
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yes I had to trigger the darn camera with a early 19th century air bulb...that just didn't reach!
 
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Rally

NC Minnesota
That was the idea of the thread Jim. Just to get some "at work " kinda pictures. These guys are just shy I guess. LOL
I just signed a contract to trap the area around the two ponds pictured above. Should be about 150 beaver or so come out of the area, maybe more. Runs to the end of June (their fiscal year end). Plan is to take as many as I can out through the ice via snowmobile, then remove the dams in warm weather, via canoe. Figure to start about mid January, depending on ice conditions.
 

trapper9260

Active Member
Well Rally I came out with 12 beaver and 2 otters and 6 coyotes and some possum , rats and skunks and few coon not many around my area due to distemper. I have not sold anything yet let the last of the furs dry, Good to hear you still able to keep at it . Hope you get as many there is there in the ponds you talk about . I know how it is to trap beaver with ice. I done it in the past . I used snares mainly for that.
 

JWFilips

Well-Known Member
Thanks Rally.....well my office isn't as pretty as yours and I'm sure the air of yours is far better to breathe! but I thought I would join in on the fun!
Now some folks ( Ian ) could post about the office hazards of falling out of car trunks...etc so we may be able to spin this up to "fivers ,what are you doing today? thread"! What do you think?
Jim
 

Ian

Notorious member
This was in my office this morning:

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And this one a couple of years ago:

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My office now, before business opens. Got 1/4 of the shop to myself:

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Ian

Notorious member
Lol! That's because I mop it myself every day and keep the lifts wiped down. I absolutely hate grease and oil everywhere, or getting a dirty smear on my uniform from having rubbed against something in the shop.
 

creosote

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Difficult to see with a crappy phone.
I gotta ask, is that romex wire?
I'm never gettin rid of old garden hose again. :rofl:
 
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