New pig gun/ range toy.

popper

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10" 300BO pistol. 175gr under 15gr 1680, maybe 14-1500 fps. ~5#. Shot @ 50 with scope, changed to Halo & SeeAll, still did reasonable for HG on stand and me standing. Got to find a drill press to pin the HG as recoil (overgassed, AGB not set) keeps sliding off. More testing to come. Haven't shot any since just getting astigmatisms removed from the cornea of both eyes. Maybe cataract replacement later. Top 2 holes are SeeAll, had to step back and guess (other target has Amaxs). Elevation is good, my wiggle causes the horizontal. The 170 PB (16 gr 2400) and 185gr. GC (16gr 2400 or 30 gr. LeverE) work well in the 30/30 also. Anyway, this should do better than the XD40 for longer range.
 

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Ian

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Odd that the HG is slipping. Looks like a DD guard, are they intended to be pinned? Seems like the three pinch screws ought to hold it, my Samson EVO stays put with just two pinch screws, but it does have a perpendicular set screw for good measure.

How do you like the See-All? I've been seriously considering one, but it's a toss-up between that and the Holosun micro with 5-year battery life and 8-hour auto off, motion auto on features.

I have pretty good luck "cheeking" pistols, there's little bit of technique to it but a lot less sway than poking it out there one-handed. The "blade" type cheek rests work pretty well, too, if you don't mind a whale tail hanging off the back of your pistol.
 

minmax

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I've had Corneal transplants, when you go to get your cataract surgery, get interoccular implants. The Best Thing I Ever Did.
 

popper

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It's a runnerrunner HG, barrel nut doesn't have a ring around it, I'll just dimple it and put a set screw through the pinch area. Tried blue loctite - didn't work. Carbine buffer & spring, AGB wasn't turned off, pistol gas. Bolt slam is excessive, got to solve that one. May need to cut a coil or 2 off the spring. For now I'm leaving it off & just use a glove. SeeAll is good, got a riser now so it's at the right height. I had it on the 30/30 and was easier than irons to use. Haven't shot at moving target so not sure about acquisition. It hits where aimed. I used it on MII 22 for a while but that pistol has good sights anyway. Halo is SightMark - batteries are small. I put a small paper over the contact so I don't have to play with installing them at range, just blow the paper out & screw the cap back on. I took it off my 308 carbine, didn't change the sighting, worked fine. The PB 175 is modified from the RD design, slightly smaller meplat feeds fine with lancer mags. Kak 1:8 barrel, CMC trigger, biggest cost of the build. SIL & GKs are going pig hunting next week, cry,cry I get to stay home.
edit: cut 3 turns off the spring so now I can get manual lockback. Should reduce bolt slam.
 
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popper

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Tried it with the SeeAll @ 50, got one on paper so I moved to 10 pistol. Darn sight got loose. Ended up doing pretty good, ~1" @ 10 but 3" low. Left the HG off. Alloy is really soft, used BLL. Then I used up ~75 WWWB 40SW. 20/40 now and no astigmatism, 1 sight vs 3 before. I can see the front sight!!. Used the rest of the 30/30 185 gr @ 50, soft alloy and got a solid 1 1/2 MOA. Almost as good as a harder alloy @ 1950 fps.
 

Ian

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So you don't have to divide your magazine between all three targets now? :D

Tell me, are you using gas checks and are you having trouble with lead building up on you bolt tail and gas rings?
 

popper

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I only saw one target but 3 front sights before. No trouble with BCG leading, using PB 175s, bore is clean. Never had any problem with leading in the BCG on any of my ARs, just carbon & PC crud. Tried the MG 30/30 with 2400 175 PB, same load, alloy & BLL as 185 GC, leaded barrel pretty bad. Decided I'll use GC with soft in the MG. Works fine with hard & PB.
 

Ian

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The MG Marlins I have both lead the first inch or so of the barrel pretty badly (lumpy, crusty, heavy stuff) with plain-base bullets unless I get the alloy just right and pick a design that basically corks up the throat an stops leaks before being fired. Any jump at all and leading happens.

I have never even seen a speck of PC in any of my BCGs, but the bolt tails and gas rings get packed up in less than 50 rounds with BLK and .45 ACP unless I powder coat them. I never did figure out why that was so, especially with my carbine and pistol Blackouts, it happened with BLL and all sorts of regular lube, several alloys, bunch of different bullet styles, sizing diameters, etc.
 

popper

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planned to go to houston for Easter with the kids, thurs eve wife says I'm invited to pig hunt sat. Left for Hearne sat morn, got the walking 'tour' of 40 acre scrub plot, talked to the neighbor who said the moccasins were out after the rain. then set up to sight in kids rifle, BO, 223 & my pistol, 243 & 308MX. Carried all the stuff 1/4 mi to the stand where the boys sat, their dad & I were in ground chairs for 4 hrs in the sun. back to the truck after dark. saw nothing, oops, fresh tracks next to the truck. Back to houston by 12:30PM, after church I was beat and layed down to recooperate and danged dog (aussie puppy) torpedoes me in the right temple, bruised just behind the eye socket. dad's sis has a black eye also. eye doc is going to get a chuckle tomorrow. Got to Dallas just as the rain hit. I'm bushed. anyway, seeall sight worked pretty good once I got it set right, worked till just after sundown when you can't see a target anyway. target is standing, ~35 yds. bottom is before I corrected, upper is after. Probably hunting accuracy @ 100 OK, should be like irons on moving target.. 145 pB, 150 SPP & 155Amax. Younger boy tried it, bumped the C.H. in his nose the first shot.
 

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Ian

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Don't feel bad, I've been skunked more often than not going all over the state on pig hunts, you never know what they're going to do, where they're going to be, or when. Glad the See-All worked out, I may still get one but right now I'm still using a combination of open sights, red dots, and night vision for piggies.

How's the dog? :D
 

popper

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Getting skunked doesn't bother me much, I get to spend time with the G.K.s Just reporting that the SeeAll works well for those of us that can no longer use iron sights. It uses NO batteries.
No parallax by locking on bench at a target and moving view from left to right, up & down. Vertical is harder as lower half of sight is not transparent. You have to adjust for drop by POA on target. Caution is optical parts are plastic so you have to watch for solvents and oils. Conclusion - for $100, a sight that works well for 'old' eyes, limited only be how well you can hold POA on the target. I wore glasses to compensate for astigmatism & depth of view, it worked well WITHOUT the glasses (just got more mag. with glasses on this sight). Works same without the glasses now - got the eyes fixed. Mine has the delta cross hair, they do make a standard version.
I built the pistol as it's under 5# and with bad knees/back/shoulders I can carry it in the field. I'm not getting any younger.
 
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