Period Article: High Power Rifles And Lubrication (Jan 1906)

Elric

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Folks, I have put a little thought into posting relevant period articles. First, I'm adding "Period Article" in the title for ease of search, and settling on using General Discussions to drop them. Trying to choose from the different forums is a bit fiddly...

Also, I cannot find a search term that drops you onto the correct page for this excerpt, the Google Book link brings up the cover of the edition... So when you try to bring this up, scroll down in Acrobat to page 239... Note the discrepancy between the physical page (239) and the printed page (330).


High Power Rifles And Lubrication., excerpt by D. L. F. Chase

The following excerpt was from an address delivered by President D. L. F. Chase to the annual meeting of the Massachusetts Rifle Association.
Shooting And Fishing, vol 39, No. 16, Jan 25, 1906 page 330

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As already hinted, I have hardly fired a shot the past year except with the .30 caliber, and .while the experience has by no means been with out interest and pleasure, I mu'st say that from the first the mechanical Conditions of this kind of shooting have gone against my grain. One of the first things that an apprentice learns in a machine shop is that unlubricated metallic surfaces rubbing together under pressure are soon damaged. My mechanical soul has always been vexed at the thought of sending hard ‘jacketed bullets rasping' through a finely finished barrel without lubrication. We procure a barrel which has been bored and rifled and polished to the very limit of mechanical nicety and perfection, and calibrated within a very few .01 of an inch of a certain standard, and then we proceed to insult and outrage the beautiful instrument by driving hard, dry, unlubricated projectiles through it at the rate of 2000 feet a second! It is like using a fine razor to open oysters, or a silver soup ladle to stir the fire!

Now the chemical experts tell us that no greasy lubricant will do any good on account of excessive velocity and heat, and also because the burnt grease and nitro residue together form a malignant compound especially hard to remove. While accepting the dictum about grease without much question, I asked myself why graphite might not be the thing desired. Graphite is a natural mineral substance having remarkable lubricating properties, even when; used dry, as also the quality of adhering to very smooth surfaces so as to form a slight coating of beautifully smooth glazing when rubbed against them under pressure.

Moreover, and what is Quite as important as its lubricating properties, graphite is practically unaffected by heat, and will stand even white heat without disintegration, as is shown by using it to make crucibles for melting steel Probably not many of you know the feeling of pulverized graphite. Dip your fingers in it and rub them together 'without looking, and you will hardly believe that they are not smeared with heavy oil.

Here then seemed to be the Very ideal thing which nature’s laboratory turned out, for the express purpose of lubricating high velocity jacketed bullets. So I tried it, first rather crudely, by putting a narrow band of the powdered graphite around the bullet just ahead of the shell. The results were unsatisfactory, but I did not regard them as conclusive, because I learned long ago that even with black powder a long, smooth lead bullet without grooves cannot be successfully lubricated with grease. I could hardly believe this when I first began to shoot a rifle twenty years ago, knowing as I did something about lubrication under ordinary conditions. Everybody was using paper patches then, but it seemed to me that, by cleaning and oiling the barrel thoroughly with heavy oil after each shot, I might use a smooth, ungrooved, unpatched bullet, fitting on top of the lands like the patched bullets. But a very few shots took that conceit out of me, when I found my rifle so full of lead that I could not see any grooves. Grooves in the bullets are necessary to confine the lubricant, so that it cannot escape while being held to its duty between the two rubbing surfaces under tremendous pressure; other wise, it will be squeezed out and pushed ahead of the bullet without getting between the surfaces at all.

So I next grooved some of the jacketed bullets. The grooves were cut in the jacket, ten or twelve of them, small, sharp, and close together, and perhaps .01 or .005 of an inch in depth. The jackets are .02 of an inch thick, and were not materially weakened, by the grooving, fine grooves, slightly moistened with oil, were then filled with dry graphite. The shooting tests seemed to show that there was real lubrication; that is, the rubbing surfaces were actually separated by a film of graphite. One interesting proof of this appeared in the fact that my rifle, cleaned up in the usual way on a Saturday, would show up on the next Saturday with a bore as clean as any black powder rifle; while without the graphite there would always be a coating of rusty fuzz, due to nickel fouling and other residue very hard to remove.

So far I am sure that my tale is pleasant for you to hear, as it is also pleasant for 'me to tell, and I only wish that I could add that they lived happily ever afterward. But alas, that I am obliged to admit that good lubrication does not necessarily mean improved accuracy. With absurd perversity those jacketed bullets emphasized their natural depravity by shooting worse with lubrication than without it. Not that the shooting was entirely bad in the sense of generally missing the target, for I made a good many bullseyes with the lubricated bullets, but there were generally sandwiched in with them enough bad shots to spoil the scores, and I was kept on the ragged edge of uncertainty all the time. The rifle and bullets seemed to resent kind treatment, and repel all efforts to make things easier for them, like some naughty children who behave worse and worse the more you try to help them.

Now since accuracy, and forever accuracy, is the alpha and omega of the rifleman’s creed, I must for the present continue to send those infernal, hard, unlubricated bullets scouring through my beautiful barrel until some wiser head than mine finds out a better system.
 

pokute

Active Member
I started reading the old issues that you dredged up. Some great stuff on nearly every page. As a pistolero, I feel a little left out of the earlier parts, but at the same time, those old articles between 1901 and 1921 contain the germs of what became the pistol game. Great, great stuff.

My own experience with lubing jacketed bullets with JPW and BN are not at odds with the article you quote above, because I'm loading for pistols. I'd be very wary of getting anything between the bullet and bore at the pressures seen by jacketed bullets in rifles. I've seen graphite compress into tough adherent scales at pressures and temperatures not too different from those in a rifle barrel. On the other hand, Boron Nitride does not form these scales because while the structure of BN resembles graphite, it is significantly different.
 
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Elric

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There is quite a bit on pistols, but I'm a rifleman... mostly.

There is a boffo article circa 1920 where Ed McGivern was shooting aerial targets from an open topped car. And busting them up, too.
 

pokute

Active Member
There is quite a bit on pistols, but I'm a rifleman... mostly.

There is a boffo article circa 1920 where Ed McGivern was shooting aerial targets from an open topped car. And busting them up, too.

I'd love to try that, but I'm afraid that it might not be appreciated so much these days.
 

Intheshop

Banned
Eric,as a certifiable book nerd,I've ALWAYS enjoyed your posts!

Building a two-tone L shaped book case the last two days.Upper section is one colour,lower... matching the "dado" wall treatment in the rest of the room,of a different colour.So much for retirement?But,but... it's a Christmas present so it doesn't really count as work?

Reading your threads seems to be fitting material for a nice fire,and a well appointed English library.Just sayin.BW
 

Elric

Well-Known Member
I'd be very wary of getting anything between the bullet and bore at the pressures seen by jacketed bullets in rifles. I've seen graphite compress into tough adherent scales at pressures and temperatures not too different from those in a rifle barrel. On the other hand, Boron Nitride does not form these scales because while the structure of BN resembles graphite, it is significantly different.

Have you considered the use of monolithic copper bullets that are grooved?

Also, what properties does this lube need to have?

Thinking of the early cupro-nickle bullets that tinned the bore horribly, shooters used to dip their bullet tips in Mobil lubricant. The biggest problem with that, IIRC, is the build-up of lube in the chamber...
 
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pokute

Active Member
Have you considered the use of monolithic copper bullets that are grooved?

Also, what properties does this lube need to have?

Thinking of the early cupro-nickle bullets that tinned the bore horribly, shooters used to dip their bullet tips in Mobil lubricant. The biggest problem with rhat, IIRC, is the build-up of lube in the chamber...

Yes, and again, that's a rifle issue that is not found in pistols.
 

Elric

Well-Known Member
Yes, and again, that's a rifle issue that is not found in pistols.

Just as an alpha geek question, would the 460 S&W have enough pressure to foul like this IF we somehow found old cupro-nickle bullets?
 

pokute

Active Member
Hey, over the last two weeks I caught up with you on those old issues of Arms and the Man! The use of MobilLube seems to have been a competition solution to the overly generous bores of older lower-pressure service rifles before the 30-06 became the competition rifle. Shooters who insisted on oiling the 30-06 were served up a handful of blown stock, if I read the articles correctly (Hatcher? Whelen?), though no bolt failure.

The 460 S&W is a mystery to me. The 454 does everything I need a handgun to do.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
I would say yes on the 460 pressures .
Most of the data runs under 50kpsi but it was designed for 62kpsi .