Primers starting to emerge
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CZ93X62
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I'll let those predatory ^%&$s get good & hungry, and see what they do about pricing when they can't pay their rent or power bills BECAUSE NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WILL PAY THOSE KIND OF TARIFFS FOR PRIMERS OR OTHER CONSUMABLES. There are times I think that some of the retailers servicing this hobby field ought to be taken out and horse-whipped at a dark crossroads 5 miles outside of town, and obliged to walk home afterward.
Kevin Stenberg
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I am still stocked good enough i don't have to pay these prices. But I hope the average comes back to 40$ a K
Winelover
North Central Arkansas
Never paid $40 for primers. That's what the LGS was charging before 
I will pay the Hazmat fees and shipping before going that route. IIRC, $25/brick was the cost the last time I put in a large order with Powder Valley.................. O'bummer was still in his second term.
I will pay the Hazmat fees and shipping before going that route. IIRC, $25/brick was the cost the last time I put in a large order with Powder Valley.................. O'bummer was still in his second term.
What? No tar and feathers?
I paid 60$ for a brick of CCi srp this year at LGS. I also paid a couple $ extra for powder. Why? shelves are bare, good guy and want him to stay in business. Same reason I go to the public but private owned range often (other than just having fun), city tried to shut it down for years, and I'd have to drive lots farther and pay more for other ranges.
I know 60 sounds high, but they aren't getting them for the price they used to. My local hardware store carries some stuff and they got some primers in a while back and there cost was 50$ think I paid 62 for them, They were Fed GMM small rifle, but still, I was running low on SRP at the time and thought id grab some to get me through.
Petrol & Powder
Well-Known Member
Primers will continue to sell for obscene prices for the same amount of time that people are willing to PAY obscene prices.
The people that make primers can’t eat them; they must sell them. They will sell for the highest price the market will bear.
The raw materials that go into primers are extremely cheap. The manufacturing process isn’t expensive. There is some small cost to packaging and transportation. EVEN WITH ALL OF THAT, they were making a healthy profit at $3.50/100.
The price isn’t being set by the sellers; it is being set by fearful consumers willing to pay those high prices.
The people that make primers can’t eat them; they must sell them. They will sell for the highest price the market will bear.
The raw materials that go into primers are extremely cheap. The manufacturing process isn’t expensive. There is some small cost to packaging and transportation. EVEN WITH ALL OF THAT, they were making a healthy profit at $3.50/100.
The price isn’t being set by the sellers; it is being set by fearful consumers willing to pay those high prices.
CZ93X62
Official forum enigma
They never do--customer demand is the entirety of shortages or surpluses. I don't think manufacturing rates vary a whole lot--manufacturers have said that consistently, and for a time I didn't believe them--maybe they have been truthful.
This last drought has been a Perfect Storm--sky-rocketing demand for arms and ammo, with a HUGE growth in reloading interest fed by those shortages, and just-in-time inventory practices combine to make a market that strips out in a short time. All that said, I am not about to help retailers "Make hay while the sun shines". The real fix is for manufacturers to bestir themselves and expand their production capacity to serve this expanded market, but I am not optimistic at the chances for that to take place. And I'll be d---ed if I'll pay $60/1K for primers of any kind.
This last drought has been a Perfect Storm--sky-rocketing demand for arms and ammo, with a HUGE growth in reloading interest fed by those shortages, and just-in-time inventory practices combine to make a market that strips out in a short time. All that said, I am not about to help retailers "Make hay while the sun shines". The real fix is for manufacturers to bestir themselves and expand their production capacity to serve this expanded market, but I am not optimistic at the chances for that to take place. And I'll be d---ed if I'll pay $60/1K for primers of any kind.
Petrol & Powder
Well-Known Member
The fallacy here is the term “The Manufactures”.
The Manufactures is not a single entity. “They” do not act as one. They are not one company. There is no incentive for individual companies to limit production. This isn’t OPEC in the 1970’s or even some sort of collusion between competitors.
The term “The Manufactures” suggests some type of price fixing. I see no evidence of that. I do see evidence of consumer fear driving prices up. Fear is an extremely powerful motivator.
Until that box of 1000 primers for $60 sits on the shelf for months while its competitor’s boxes continuously sell for less; we will see high prices. The currently inflated market will collapse the second the demand evaporates. Those primers don’t cost anywhere near $60/1000 to produce, package & transport. Some manufacturers will ALWAYS undercut their competitor’s prices as long as there is room to still make a profit.
RBHarter
West Central AR
Y'all missed the CWA 1974 and RCRA . There's all of the baggage that has/is pending to be/been enhanced . It's all part of the mix , wages I doubt are in the mix at this point .
I stocked up in the last lull and by comparison I am short on one primer and until I can get settled down and make shows etc I will likely remain as such . I only use 6 primers and could trim that to 5 and may in the future .
I stocked up in the last lull and by comparison I am short on one primer and until I can get settled down and make shows etc I will likely remain as such . I only use 6 primers and could trim that to 5 and may in the future .
I could get by with FOUR, if I could find/afford adequate supplies of the exact powders (those not requiring mag primers) I want; LR, LP, SR, SP.
I could further get down to TWO if I really HAD to; SR/SP, LR/LP, SR/LP or LR/SP.
If things got really tight, I could get down to ONE and that would be SR, because I keep heavy springs in my 357 revolvers and make sure they will light RIFLE primers. That would also allow me to shoot 357 Mag/Max rifle, 222,...
I have all of seventeen 357 cases which take LARGE PISTOL primers, which I keep just in case I'm in a pickle of having only large primers. Wish I had a bunch more of those as well as some 30 American brass, so I could feed at least one rifle bigger than a 22 with small pistol primers.
I envy the "annoyance" some 45 ACP shooters suffer, in that they can shoot whether they have small OR large primers - if they have not thrown out or given away that irksome small-pistol-primer 45 ACP brass.
My current "primer strategy" has been effect for over ten years, and would be going much better if not for prices (for everything) going up and up and yet, not so much wages.