Probably a stupid mould question , but?

Pistolero

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Ian has it. I shot a hell of a lot of UMC 7mm that looked much like that when I was a teen.
They were $7 a hundred, a little bit expensive for a very poor teen.

Bill
 

Ian

Notorious member
No, I don't have it, Fiver's right. Looking closer at the rim end it's probably 6.5mm Japanese.
 

fiver

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the part that's getting me is the Kynoch mark.
it could be for WW-I the Japanese did fight on the Allied side during that war.
they were also fighting the communists in China and brutally kicking asses all over Korea too during that time frame.
 

Ian

Notorious member
The Brits had a bunch of those rifles too, as did the Russians. I have no idea how many countries were making ammo during WWI but I imagine it wasn't all made in Japan.
 

JWFilips

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Ok this is from the website where I lifted the photo:

Here’s a picture of a stripper clip of 6.5 Arisaka made by Kynoch in 1916. The headstamp is K 16; the stripper clip is stamped KYNOCH. I also have these cartridges headstamped K 16 II and K 17 II.
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
A lot of nations liked having their armed services "Hurl javelins" from their rifles once smokeless powders got traction. Long bullets and gain- or fast-twists were rule, not the exception. USA was not immune to this disease, either--the 30-40 Krag and early 30-03 used 220 grain RN bullets that birthed the 1-10" twist we have come to know and love (sometimes) in our 30 caliber long arms. The photos I have seen of period 6.5 x 50 Arisaka ammo all had that long-bullet look to them.
 
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Ian

Notorious member
I got a Midsouth 6.5mm cruise missile mould, throws about .270 on the bands and weighs 170 grains.
 

JWFilips

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I have 15 sample bullets of that cruise missile to try ...however they have been resized to .266" so I have to double pc them to even get close.
If it drops .270" that would be ideal with 1 coat PC I would think. Does Midsouth still have those for sale?
 

fiver

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probably but that's not saying LEE hasn't changed them.
it might be worth the time to look through their returned no warranty cheap-O box and see if they have anything.

this is another one of those times we really need a custom mold maker willing to cut the smaller diameter molds.
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
I don't know what it is, but those long, skinny 6.5 bullets really appeal to me.

That photo jogged my memory. My own first "high-powered" rifle was a 30-30, but the first one I ever shot was a 6.5 Carcano. When my dad pulled a few cartridges from the box to let me shoot it, I fell in love. He wouldn't let me have that rifle because he saw it as a "curiosity" and told me when I got a center-fire rifle that it would be a "real rifle." He didn't think much of 6.5s, especially the ones with small cases.

Fifty years later, guess what - he drags home a sporterized 6.5 Arisaka. I didn't remind him that 6.5s weren't "real rifles.":)
 

Ian

Notorious member
Yes, Jim. They were, for many years, consistently cut way to big for the Swedes but might do the trick for you. I can measure the nose diameter of mine since memory has failed there, but it's 8-10 years old and no telling what Lee is cutting them like now.
 

Pistolero

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My brother had a couple of 6.5 Carcanos back in the 60s. When we shot those long 160 gr
military 'spears' in our sand pit range, we'd dig up our bullets. My 7x57 had two bullet types,
140ish spitzers and 175 RN, much like the 160 gr 6.5s. The spitzers were found about 6" into
the sand, mashed flat and split open from turning sideways. The long RNs were far deeper and
usually intact. But, if they hit a tiny rock (not much real rock in Fla) and busted the jacket, just
lead and copper fragments, and the sand was white, I think from heat.
HS ballistics lab. FMJ RN would go at least a foot to 18" in sand, and often looked like you could
reload them. Later I actually did reload and reshoot one, just for the hell of it.

Bill