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freebullet

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Yeah, it does but, the rhythm is just before the suck down or color change. With that mold, pure, & the melt at 740 anyway. When it just begins to skin -cut dump pour.

At 810 the standard wait time seemed more appropriate.

The sprue plate is just to small on that mold. It wants to roll off & does so easily. Continuing to pour at that point just rolls more off. It needs a ridge at the end of the plate to prevent roll off.
 
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freebullet

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Wanna thank you fellas again. Got to the range for a couple hours today. I tried the 370 maxi hunters dipped in 50/50 bwax crisco with 9/16" leather wad & about 80gr ffg did pretty well.
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Fired 5 under 3" at 100yd. I felt like it & I could do better but, 26f was getting me after a while. That was a tc omega. The 1 off side up top was from scope adjusting.
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Top scope adjusting, center- cleared another muzzleloader there, and the group high center is 4 shots from same load as above from a cva wolf.

It's coming around. Those dip lubed with a leather wad are showing some promise. They are much easier & more consistent in loading pressure required than sabots.
 

John

Active Member
About 1980 or so we were at Elk camp with me shooting those from a TC Hawken and 2 other 50's shooters and one 54 with rb's. We shot at an 8" tree to unload at night and mine was the only one that penetrated. Never got an elk with it but a few deer fell to that bullet and FF.
 

Ian

Notorious member
Sweet! You have a venison-getter there for sure. A robust wad under the bullet usually seems to shrink groups when using soft, unprotected bullets. I've used cork/rubber composite wads stamped from automotive gasket material, cardboard, stacked cards, combinations of those with fiber wads and lubricated wad and even grease cookies (cookies get mashed when seating), and more or less always saw improvements. If I was fighting at Gettysburg I'm sure my opinion of complicated load stacks would be very different, but fortunately that is not the case.
 
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freebullet

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Well, thanks again.

Shot this with the omega thumbhole a bunch more and worked up to 100gr ffg and 2 leather wads under the 370 maxi's and-
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That's 3 at 50 & I put 1 more right in them after the photo. Smallest 50 cal bp group I've fired. Had to walk down to make sure what I thought was happening was actually happening. Going to clean this tonight & try to line up the scope at 100 tomorrow.
 

Ian

Notorious member
Holy cow. Write down everything you did and have it engraved on a granite tablet tomorrow.
 
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freebullet

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I'll have to see how it works at 100 before we etch stone. It's really starting to impress me though. It was 30f felt like 10 on my hands. A wobbly plastic front rest & no rear bag didn't help.
Pure maxi 370, goex ffg@100gr, 2 leather(5-6oz) wads, Brad & Paul's 5050 dip lube, & a rem primer.
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This is showing a ton of promise in 4 different inlines.
 

35 shooter

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Never tried leather wads...i will definitely keep this load on file to try one day.
That is some super fine bp shooting!
 
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freebullet

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Thanks guys, couldn't have been more excited when it happened. I did about the same group yesterday so it appears to be repeatable. Shot it some at 100 my shoulder was already pulverized from all the testing, & the best I could manage was 3" at 100. I'm pretty sure this will hold near moa at 100 will try again soon.

On a side note I think the lube needs a minor adjustment. It seems to be cracking & not very tacky. As most of my inline shooting is 30 or less degrees, I'm thinking a bit more crisco & maybe a dash of lanolin for tack. Any thoughts on that?
 

Ian

Notorious member
Lanolin, 5% max or you might have it ruining your bore condition after 2-3 shots.
 

300BLK

Well-Known Member
More Crisco will make it softer, and lanolin will make it tacky. Other things to consider would be Jojoba oil (actually a wax), Castor oil, Palm oil, Coconut oil, Avocado oil, etc. Beeswax is just a "carrier" for your oil.
 

300BLK

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Lanolin, 5% max or you might have it ruining your bore condition after 2-3 shots.

I've run anhydrous lanolin in blackpowder cartridge lube in excess or 20% with excellent accuracy, and that was with using a blowtube to put moisture in the barrel between shots..
 

Ian

Notorious member
The problem he has going on there with just BW and Crisco is the Crisco is fully hydrogenated and saturated, so it doesn't really have much polar bonding ability. The BW has lots of mono and di esters which will swim around in and bond with about anything, but they shrivel up in the cold and let go of the saturated fats. Lanolin will help glue it all together in the cold, unlike Jojoba or coconut. I don't know about palm or avocado in the cold.
 

Ian

Notorious member
I've run anhydrous lanolin in blackpowder cartridge lube in excess or 20% with excellent accuracy, and that was with using a blowtube to put moisture in the barrel between shots..

FB has a little different situation than that, especially the temperature, the muzzle-loading aspect, and being handling properties of exposed bullets in the field.