Remingtons 360 Buckhammer

Tomme boy

Well-Known Member
But it's only in modern firearms so they can max out the pressure that the 30-30 case can handle by running it in a rimmed case off the 6.8 SPC line with SRP brass and run it up to 55kpsi and the short case gets negated .
6.8's problem was no one used the barrel and chamber that it was designed around. Using a barrel with more than 4 grooves lead to pressure problems. But the manufacturers wanted to use their existing barrels they had and case life went out the door. But you can not tell anyone that because Remington, ruger and the like are smarter than the guy that invented it.
 

Ian

Notorious member
They won't get 2200 fps with 200 grains from a 20" levergun barrel and stay under 40K psi, that's just more of the marketing bullshit we've come to expect. The bullet will also drop like a rock and unless Remington has partnered with Hornady to use their FTX line of bullets this will be a 125-yard cartridge at best for those who don't really know how to aim. Even with FTX you're looking at 150 yard point-blank range. The other consideration is bullet performance at 1500 fps impact velocity at the maximum range. It IS a .35, but it ain't a .45 either. I like the idea and think this will be a sound cartridge with a much better answer to the market than the "legend", will promote levergun sales nationwide, and should be around for a while provided that the realistic limitations don't overwhelm unrealistic expectations and create and instant bad reputation among the whizbang magnum hyper-velocity flat trajectory forever tactical sniper wannabe crowd that seems to be the majority voice in all forms of media these days.

I'm seeing a great host for the RCBS and LEE 200-grain gas check powder coated wheelweight bullet, and a really good Contender barrel option.
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
This seems like a capable-enough cartridge. California doesn't have case-length or straight-wall limits on big game rifles, but it seems like my Win 94 in 38/55 would serve as well or better than a new caliber. 250 grains running 1600 FPS is no joke.
 

Tomme boy

Well-Known Member
one thing everyone is forgetting or does not know is the Browning BLR and Henry Long Ranger use actions made for 60K psi. This is my bet on where this is going to end up
 

Ian

Notorious member
But the basic .30-30 case is NOT rated for 60K psi, and if one were to make brass from that and run it 1/3 over the maximum pressure it was designed for they are going to have problems. However, since this new cartridge won't accidentally chamber in existing .30-30s then it makes sense to bump the pressure limits a little higher than the .30-30 or .35 Remington and make the proper brass that's thicker in the head and lower walls to handle it. Handloaders looking to reform cheap .30-30 brass will just have to use reduced loads, that's all.

I wonder if the article mentioned maximum average pressure ratings?
 

harrympope

Active Member
here is my 9.1x51R chambered in a large action Martini i just picked up..it's a 30-30 case tapered to .35 similar to the 32-40. not quite a 35-40 Maynard though.I've yet to shoot the rifle. I'm in process of a move and just fire formed a case to look at.
It would be really cool if the 360 Buckmaster reloading dies matched my chamber relatively close...Right now I'm using 35/30-30 dies
 

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hporter

Active Member
I was curious seeing CW's post this morning, so I picked up the Guns and Ammo magazine with the article in it today.

Craig Boddington said that he was getting an average of 2,101 fps from the 20" barrel on the Henry H009 prototype lever action over his MagnetoSpeed chronograph with an ES of 32fps and an SD of 13 with the Remington 200gr Core Lokt rounds that he was using.

He did not mention the design pressure in the article. Is that up on the SAAMI site yet?

Here are the dimensions called out in the article.

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He also said he was getting 3" groups at 100 yards from 5 5-shot groups with the prototype rifle and prototype ammo. He shot a couple does and an 8-point buck and a hog with it.
 

Ian

Notorious member
The 350 Legend is still on their list of newly accepted cartridges not in the main data list yet, nothing about this new one in there yet.
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
The 1.8" thing...

I wonder how many states set that limit, because if it were part of the design criteria, it must be quite a few.

It is not a restriction in Ohio, so many existing cartridges (and guns) are just fine to use in their original form. The 38-55, 45-70 and similar are all OK. If someone has an old rifle chambered in those cartridges, they can use them.
 

358156 hp

At large, whereabouts unknown.
Except for the straight(ish) tapered case, the 357 Herrett rides again! 1.8 case vs. 1.74 case. What bullet weight got Da' Bod all worked up this time?
 

todd

Well-Known Member
:rolleyes: i guess it is alright if you live in a 1.8" straight walled case state....i think. :rolleyes:

i think they will sell a few, but after 2 or 3 years, you will see 360BH in 1.8" straight walled case states. it's a niche in the already overcrowded straight walls. for the rest of us bottleneck case, eh. sorry CW, but i've seen the first push of the 350 Legend and it wasn't impressive.

I do believe the article should read:

Remington reintroduces the classic 35-40 Maynard target and hunting round. Redesigned utilizing modern technologically, taking advantage of superior modern powder, primers, brass and bullets for use in 21st century rifles for today's sportsmen who demand the utmost in accuracy and termal performance on game.

35-40 Maynard (circa 1892)
Cartridge length: 2.57"
Case length: 2.10"
Rim diameter: 0.494"
Base diameter: 0.403"
Shoulder diameter: N/A

30-30 Win. (360 Buckhammer. circa 2023)
Cartridge length: 2..530"
Case length: 2.03"
Rim diameter: 0.502"
Base diameter: 0.422

Looks pretty darn close in my book.

shhhhhhhh!!!! jeez, everybody almost forgot about the Maynard!!!! :rofl:



Except for the straight(ish) tapered case, the 357 Herrett rides again! 1.8 case vs. 1.74 case. What bullet weight got Da' Bod all worked up this time?

i just bought the 30 and the 357 Herrett this month. Both of them are 10" Contender barrels.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
i looked at the case and immediately thought 32-40.

i'd be a maybe, but i'm not interested in another 1100 or more dollar rifle that does diddly squat for me.
ruger and henry say 1100$ right off the bat, i don't need that much range fun.

i might be interested in some of the bullets though.
 

CWLONGSHOT

Well-Known Member
:rolleyes: i guess it is alright if you live in a 1.8" straight walled case state....i think. :rolleyes:

i think they will sell a few, but after 2 or 3 years, you will see 360BH in 1.8" straight walled case states. it's a niche in the already overcrowded straight walls. for the rest of us bottleneck case, eh. sorry CW, but i've seen the first push of the 350 Legend and it wasn't impressive.



shhhhhhhh!!!! jeez, everybody almost forgot about the Maynard!!!! :rofl:





i just bought the 30 and the 357 Herrett this month. Both of them are 10" Contender barrels.
Its 100% a Straight wall Cartridge!!! Otherwise buy a 35 Remington!!!!!

Its nothing new preformance wise. Its made to a set of regs for STRAIGHT WALL STATES!!

100% on 350 Legend. I was quite bothered when I learned what they did & wished they where actually "caught" on it! Meaning the .355 BS!! Its a 9x45 glorified 9mm extended made ta ride on the 9mm 's popularity. Then the dumbasses found out .357 was a min and SKINNED BY because of a technicality of +-.002 in SAMKI drawings allowing .355 when rules specifically stated .357. I felt cheated/bullied and wanted states to disallow on the facts.

I wanted a 357 Maxi. The 35-30/30 has been on my mind for decades so has the 35-45/70.

Had the Herrett. Somehow it was Lacking to me.
 

Tomme boy

Well-Known Member
$500 for Henry single shots! That is just stupid. I have had 2 Henrys and will not own another one no matter what it is. Had way too many problems. Bought a 22 lever, won a 44 lever at a DU banquet. The 22 receiver ate itself up by just shooting. They are made out of the same aluminum Lee uses in their molds by how soft it was. They replaced it then I sold it. The 44 just felt clunky and had feed problems. One of the guys that we hunted with wanted it bad. It was the brass one. So he gave me what they were selling for here but was not able to get.