sig 210

porthos

Member
thinking about getting one (the latest made in USA). anyone have one (or your friends) and what are your thoughts? one one of the other cast boolit sites; one individual "bad mouthed" the whole SIG line. so, i'd like to have some more input.
 

Ian

Well-Known Member
I have zero use for any of SigUSA's plastic brick handguns, but not because they aren't high-quality. Their steel 1911s have been reported pretty good but I haven't had a chance to shoot one of tbose or the P210. If you dig it, get one. Be prepared to work on the the throat if shooting cast just like any other modern auto.
 
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Rootmanslim

Banned
The older P210 is a fantastic pistol. Swiss quality and finished like a Rolls Royce. The newer one is probably great but the finish is blah.
 

CZ93X62

Redlands, Kalifornistan
Everyone has a "The One That Got Away" story. Here's mine--late 1990s, a Riverside gun store I infested from time to time had a consignment pistol for sale--SIG P-210 9mm, with swap 30 Luger and 22 LR assemblies. $2200. Lotta money at the time (for me), and I was getting jacked around by the County regarding a medical retirement question at the time. Shoulda woulda coulda.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
How about a cased Superpose with full/mod , mod/imp , and 6 invector plus chokes for the Invector barrel set in what was probably XX walnut for $1100 ?
Or the #1 and #3 in 45-70 for $450 each ?
 

Sig556r

Active Member
First off, classic Sig line are "to hell & back" reliable, the only plastic Sig I ever owned is a P2022 which I immediately sold, so can't comment on later plastic stryker-fired pistols. I own 2-P220s (45ACP, 22LR), 3-P229s (9mm, 40SW & 22LR), a P226 (9mm), 2-1911s (TacOps 45acp & Nightmare 357Sig/38Super), a 556R piston carbine (7.62x39) & except for finicky 22LRs, all have been flawless regardless of ammo. I wont get butt-hurt if you call me a Sig fanboy.
My P220 is the old W.German folded plate slide with removable breech that can accommodate a 9mm or a 10mm. Parts, however, are ridiculous that it almost cost a new slide just for the breech & barrel.
The P220 (& pretty much the rest of the classic P series) is preceded by the P210 & while I have shot/almost-bought-one, cost was prohibitive. The new P-210 are still expensive but a lot cheaper but not quite the orig purist version.
 

358156 hp

Well-Known Member
I have a P320 in .357. It handles cast really well, and hits where I aim it. Steel targets hate it. That said, SIG had it for almost 6 months for the safety recall upgrade. That didn't sit well with me at all.
 

CZ93X62

Redlands, Kalifornistan
4 SIG-Sauers on staff here--P-220 x 45 ACP, P-226 and P-228 x 9mm, and a Mosquito from c. 2004. The Bug was a PITA at first, but one summer spent feeding it CCI Mini-Mags made it behave a lot better. It was always quite accurate, just VERY fussy about ammo.

Some 22 LRs are like that, though. I have a Winchester 290 self-loading rifle that balks on just about everything--except CCI ammo. Both of these arms I call my "Steak & Lobster Cotillion Debutantes" due to their particular & refined ammo tastes. Rimfire arms like these make you REALLY appreciate the Ruger 10/22 and autopistols. They seem to feed any half-decent ammo and run reliably with same. Such things spoil you rotten. Upshot of all this--I go out of my way to buy CCI rimfire ammo these days, and use up the non-CCI stuff in the Rugers. All CCI in the future.
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
I handled one of the new USA made target model 210s in the LGS the other day. Too rich for my
tastes but really felt nice in the hand. Probably will be a real shooter.

I have a couple of SiGs in inventory, 225s. Good, reliable guns. I had to train up to the silly double/single
action trigger arrangement, and to this day the 225 and Beretta 92 are my only ones with that kind of
a trigger system (although they are not entirely the same), and I will avoid future additions with the DA/SA
type actions. Oh, wait - I forgot the Walther P38, the progenitor of the Beretta 92.

I have carried the 225 when I traveled because I trusted it to function, it had good sights and I could hit
well with it, and it could be replaced with $$$ and had no emotional attachment, just a good tool, if
the airline thieves got it enroute.

BUT, all SiGs have a bore center which is about 1/2" or more higher than they really could be, due to
their trigger design. I tend to avoid them for that reason. There are other guns that will do everything
that they will, but with a much lower bore center. Like a 1911, BHP, several of the newer plastic guns
like the S&W M&P .45. Of course, these are nothing like the 210 target, except possibly some of the
higher end semicustom 1911s, DW, Ed Brown, Wilson, Baer.

But - for what the SiG 210 target is, I think they would be a wonderful gun, esp if it scratches your itch. Certainly
very high quality, and the grips and trigger, and sights are wonderful, out of the box. I was pleased to have
had the chance to handle one, would love to shoot one.

Al - why not all Ruger in the future? :headscratch::):oops:

Bill
 
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CZ93X62

Redlands, Kalifornistan
Because very few of the Ruger handguns can come into CA. I have fired the Ruger 1911-series, both Government Model and Commander Model during my visits to the USA. They are NICE. No more 22 LR autopistols, either. So flippin' ridiculous. Time to GTFO.
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
Yikes. I didn't know no more Rugers in Cali. :sigh: I have three Ruger SR1911s, two full sized and a LtWt
Commander. All are really good examples of the breed at an affordable price. I was REALLY surprised when I
discovered that Ruger had a small titanium insert for the feed ramp on the aluminum frame Commander. There
is some fear of sharp edged HPs eroding the aluminum feed ramp over time, and some of the really high $$
custom builders mill in a small steel insert and contour it into a steel feed ramp. Ruger, on their affordable
one puts in a Ti feed ramp insert. Wow. My only complaint was the factory sight was way off of POI on Cmdr.
No alt factory sights available at the right height for me, (must be my weirdo, oddball 230 JHP Gold Dot ammo
that I want to hit where the sights look,:rolleyes:). I made a new front sight, put a fiber optic green in it, (I know
you don't like them, but I need it to find it in a hurry in low light, old eyes are just not like they used to be)
and that is all I needed to change.

I have shot and smithed on 1911s since the early 80s, own a bunch of variants and the Rugers are a good
solid example, and no silly monkeymotion addons to "solve" the nearly mythical FP "problem". Ruger puts
in a titanium FP and calls it done. YAY!

A shame you can't buy them or the .22 Std autos. You will have to decide when the hassle of moving and
uprooting your life is less than the hassle of staying. Different for everyone.

Come to Kansas. There are NO state gun laws, basically. Open or concealed carry if you can legally own
a hangun. Carry any knife you like, open or concealed. All NFA items are state uncontrolled, only have to
satisfy the feds. By any gun you like, as long as the feds are happy. But, the weather is not like the east end
of the LA basin, for sure. :eek:

Bill
 
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CZ93X62

Redlands, Kalifornistan
Marie and I were in AZ yesterday. We go there a lot. We will go to Yuma later this week, probably stay overnight. When we leave this area, it needs to be someplace warm--Marie will not go anywhere that snow either piles up or doesn't melt in a week's time. She hates being cold. I don't care about weather, I just want out of this place--it is too crowded, too liberal, and too expensive for people on a fixed income. Complications abound, mostly medical and the insurance questions to address same, and I can't get straight answers from insurers on critical questions. It's like herding cats. Maddening stuff.
 

Missionary

Active Member
Good morning
AZ is a nice place. My mom, sister and a son out there. Lots of open ground to roam. Carry anything you care to. Most legal people are polite.
Had owned a 220 for over 15 years. It digests any load I have ever tried. Very accurate. But then it is an older model.
Bought our's simply because I know an ex seal who staked his life on a 220 and it always worked well under some ugly conditions. He still carried his until about 5 years ago when he latched onto a 10mm.
 

Sig556r

Active Member
Most legal people are polite.
Had owned a 220 for over 15 years. It digests any load I have ever tried. Very accurate. But then it is an older model.
Bought our's simply because I know an ex seal who staked his life on a 220 and it always worked well under some ugly conditions. He still carried his until about 5 years ago when he latched onto a 10mm.
The PC police may flag you for using the term "legal" LOL.
If your older 220 (which I assume is the W. German made) is the folded plate version with removable breech face, then you have options including 9mm & 10mm.
I have the 45acp version in SA (with manual safety) & its definitely a keeper compared to DA/SA.
 

Missionary

Active Member
Well I will have to look into that "folded plate"next time north. I have always been happy with the 45 ACP. But the option of a 10mm for hunting would be inviting.
If the PC "squad" every got real active in AZ maybe they just might get "deported". At least the fine folks I know there are sort of verbal about their political ideas.
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
I have family in Yuma, but just military stationing, not permanent. Only visited once, seemed OK, but
not enough time to have much of an opinion. Apparently pretty seriously hot in summer.

Missionary -
I have a P6/Sig225 with the formed slide U-channel type with a pinned in rear breech block. If
you could find the right part, it would seem that replacing this breechblock assy would move the
extractor correctly, and get the breech face diameter correct....but what about the ejector?

Bill
 
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CZ93X62

Redlands, Kalifornistan
Three of my SIG-Sauer pistols--the P-220, P-226, and the P-228--are of the 'bar-folded plate' slide construction, with double-roll-pinned breech blocks. This rentention system worked well on 9mm and 45 ACP applications, but the stronger backthrust of the 357 SIG and 40 S&W bent the roll pins a bit over time, and was addressed by making the slides from machined bar stock. I need another 40 S&W like a trout needs a mountain bike, but a P-226 in 40 S&W has some appeal for me. I just plain LIKE the things. What I would REALLY like is one of the P-220s in 10mm--but (as usual) they can't come into CA. I need to leave this Soviet Albania With Date Groves.