so waht ya doin today?
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smokeywolf
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That's right! Something I didn't mention. Unless you're a salaried employee, technically, you're on "daily call".
Teamster contract overtime wasn't calculated by the day but by the hours. Straight time first 8 hours, time and a half next 6 hours and gold time after 14 hours. The next day start over at straight time first 8 hours. 6th day without a break is time and a half, 7th day straight is double time. 8th day start over.
Mitty38
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Ps. The overtime for me. In my particular position, was a requirement that was listed in my hire on contract. The trade off is job security, something I had not experienced for years till now.
This company has evolved my job around my disabilities, liabilities, and abilities. They have given me facilities to take care of my medical issues in a clean private room, supply me with a private bathroom, close to my work area Allow me to vary my breaks to deal with my issues. Let me talk on the phone with the wife while working if nessesary, accept when I am in the pit, which usually lasts no longer then 3 hrs at a time.
Most of the time. I am in a climate controlled room no less then 50% of my work day. With my own water cooler, and coffee pot.
They are close to the house. Let me run home if nessesary, for an hour or so, to care for my wife, if she has an issue. Then stay over to catch up. Something no one else was able to do for me. As long as my work is done in time for others to use the results. Then I put forth a little extra effort beyond that.
They are happy with me.
Pretty much let me fill out my own evaluation.
Do not really want to rock the boat.
I could use my seniority to alleviate some of the OT. Then the fellow who it would fall on, because of his personal issues, would have to quit. Leaving me in more of a conundrum.
Hate doing all the OT now, but without my doing it, there would be not time to train the employee that is going to let me be able to get back to my normal schedule.
Hopefully this new person works out. Not many people who can or will work, like they own it. Which is nessesary on my department.
This company has evolved my job around my disabilities, liabilities, and abilities. They have given me facilities to take care of my medical issues in a clean private room, supply me with a private bathroom, close to my work area Allow me to vary my breaks to deal with my issues. Let me talk on the phone with the wife while working if nessesary, accept when I am in the pit, which usually lasts no longer then 3 hrs at a time.
Most of the time. I am in a climate controlled room no less then 50% of my work day. With my own water cooler, and coffee pot.
They are close to the house. Let me run home if nessesary, for an hour or so, to care for my wife, if she has an issue. Then stay over to catch up. Something no one else was able to do for me. As long as my work is done in time for others to use the results. Then I put forth a little extra effort beyond that.
They are happy with me.
Pretty much let me fill out my own evaluation.
Do not really want to rock the boat.
I could use my seniority to alleviate some of the OT. Then the fellow who it would fall on, because of his personal issues, would have to quit. Leaving me in more of a conundrum.
Hate doing all the OT now, but without my doing it, there would be not time to train the employee that is going to let me be able to get back to my normal schedule.
Hopefully this new person works out. Not many people who can or will work, like they own it. Which is nessesary on my department.
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Winelover
North Central Arkansas
I worked at GM's Detroit Gear & Axle, when American Axle took over. Being a union member, I exercised my right to go back to GM. Transferred to the GM Building in downtown Detroit. Non union members (GM salary) were stuck with American Axle which shuttered the plant.
smokeywolf
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Only salaried employees (on-call foremen) didn't get O.T. after 8 hrs. in a day. Daily call (hourly) got the same as Teamsters; time and a half after 8, but golden time kicked in after 12 hours.
When I first started in the industry, Cinematography Technicians (Cinetechnicians) got double time on 6th and 7th day. A couple of years later 6th day went to time and a half.
Let's see. India just got a new factory for solar panels. US worker cost too high. Look at shipping (yes ships) outside US ports. Can't unload as union workers and drivers are stalling for higher pay. Now you know why you can't get stuff into the stores. 2 yrs ago gulf ports weren't nearly as busy, now more traffic than Long beach (china owned).
As a kid I did delivery of product, sometimes to union places. Where's your union card? 'like your product, taken back to the warehouse'. 'Ok, gime stuff'. Always worked.
edit: Dad ran a large elec. construction company, office staff where I worked to pay for college was non-union but electricians were. Union wages and politics eventually bankrupt the company. And the union guys had to move to other cities to find work. Some had worked there for 30 yrs. Union bosses had 'protection'. Country was in a minor recession and union wages stopped a lot of planned expansion. Killed new work for 3-4 yrs.
Funny, UK is in energy crisis now, plus a heat wave (90F - haa). So train workers strike for higher wages. So workers can't get to work, productivity drops and economy gets WORSE!
As a kid I did delivery of product, sometimes to union places. Where's your union card? 'like your product, taken back to the warehouse'. 'Ok, gime stuff'. Always worked.
edit: Dad ran a large elec. construction company, office staff where I worked to pay for college was non-union but electricians were. Union wages and politics eventually bankrupt the company. And the union guys had to move to other cities to find work. Some had worked there for 30 yrs. Union bosses had 'protection'. Country was in a minor recession and union wages stopped a lot of planned expansion. Killed new work for 3-4 yrs.
Funny, UK is in energy crisis now, plus a heat wave (90F - haa). So train workers strike for higher wages. So workers can't get to work, productivity drops and economy gets WORSE!
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Snakeoil
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Put the wife in the Miata and took a ride up into Tug Hill. All back roads thru Camden and Oceola, ending up in West Leyden. Then south to Lee Center and back roads from there back to the camp on Oneida. 77 miles round trip. Not enough cars on the road to even mention. Never anything in our lane.
JWFilips
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I guess I was very lucky: when I went on salary in the 1990's I worked a normal 8 hours most days and made more money....Also at the end of the year I got a hefty bonus based on our profits for the year! Never had to complain until the Obama years when I had no big jobs and my clients didn't want to spend money!
Mitty38
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My dad and uncle were lucky, They were hired by Timken Bearing. Had enough seniority, not to get transfered, to the New None Union Steel mill,when it opened. Then managed to retire with full benefits. Timken is the only Union company that did not get sold out in our area. Or close down and reopen. Resetting any union contracts back to 0.
My buddie was at Republic which changed to LTV then they closed down. Lost everything including most of his retirement. They since reopened as Republic. He got hired back in same job, but start over from square one. Making less now as a lifer Union Worker then I. But least he has a half baked retirement account to look forward to, and decent medical.
I lost most of my benefits from the local teamsters when I could no longer drive. With no help from them to get thru the system
Was a nice deal while it lasted. Card holder for 10 + years. Have managed to get a small pitance transfered to an personal retirement account. But probably just enough to mess me up later on in life.
Prior, lost my UFCW job of 10 years. Then again at ARE after 8years, and all my benefits, including most of the funds I had transfered from the previous job, when China bought them out and forced out all of us that were trying to go Union.
Ye it's a good concept, but Union does not work for everyone.
There is good and bad on everything I guess. If it works-worked out for you then. I am happy for you. I have not been so lucky riding the skirts of the Union. Or with 401k and retirement plans.
So I will probably work till I die. Or at least turn 72. But that is OK. We are all given our own plate. It's up to us to make the best of what is on it.
My buddie was at Republic which changed to LTV then they closed down. Lost everything including most of his retirement. They since reopened as Republic. He got hired back in same job, but start over from square one. Making less now as a lifer Union Worker then I. But least he has a half baked retirement account to look forward to, and decent medical.
I lost most of my benefits from the local teamsters when I could no longer drive. With no help from them to get thru the system
Was a nice deal while it lasted. Card holder for 10 + years. Have managed to get a small pitance transfered to an personal retirement account. But probably just enough to mess me up later on in life.
Prior, lost my UFCW job of 10 years. Then again at ARE after 8years, and all my benefits, including most of the funds I had transfered from the previous job, when China bought them out and forced out all of us that were trying to go Union.
Ye it's a good concept, but Union does not work for everyone.
There is good and bad on everything I guess. If it works-worked out for you then. I am happy for you. I have not been so lucky riding the skirts of the Union. Or with 401k and retirement plans.
So I will probably work till I die. Or at least turn 72. But that is OK. We are all given our own plate. It's up to us to make the best of what is on it.
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Unions, haven't got much good to say about them. Corrupt, greedy wastrels whose main concern is amassing power and $$$. A once noble idea that fell to the age old problem of too much power, too much $$$, too much self importance.
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Sounds like they have a real good employee there!
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Went through there a couple weeks back. Gorgeous country!
Ian
Notorious member
The Boeing plant I worked at after college closed on account of the IAMAW union driving it straight into the dirt. The place is a huge church now. Now I work for a PRIVATE aerospace manufacturing company doing exactly the same thing sans union. 1000% better now and I plan to retire from their operation in 20 years or fewer.
Kevin Stenberg
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I went to a Pawn shop today. Thay had two nice Savage 99. Both were in very good condition. One was chambered in 375 with a price of 2500$. The other was in 358 W they only wanted 1500$ for that one. Needless to say they are both there.
Interesting story. I did work for E-systems when they were going through union sqabbles. A/C guys were union and most office/line people weren't. Company did a reverse stock split and the union guys left. Then Co got sold. That's the way it goes.
Yup, Boeing is part union part non. I was a sub there and it was a pain working with some of them. In general tough the people were very good, just the union atmosphere.
Yup, Boeing is part union part non. I was a sub there and it was a pain working with some of them. In general tough the people were very good, just the union atmosphere.
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For me at least, union membership is a mixed bag. I'm in a union because of my job: not willing to risk working there without the option of having a union lawyer if there are problems. That said, this was my 10th consecutive "weekend" dealing with problems that the union should have been working on once the original grievance was filed.
Mitty38
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358 with a heavy bullet like 200 up, makes a great brush gun. I have hunted WVA with one.
Buddy in WVA owns 2. Uses one primarily for target, and one for white tail with his own loads. Let me use one when I went down there, a couple years back. It did the job. His hunting lease is very over grown. So heavy bullets rule.
But $1500 would be a bit much for me, when there are plenty of other options. I believe I would have walked on that one too.
fiver
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woo-hoo i'm rich..... they didn't make very many in 375.