What are .357 multiball good for?

[Bret4207]

It depends on what you hit them in the chest with, at what angle and their state of mind. I've seen the videos of guys in vests taking 45ACP hits and they just stand there. I have all sorts of confidence in my 36 cal muzzle loader being a bit more than a 22 mag power-wise, but it's not like it's knocking anything off their feet from pure energy.

 

[JustJim]

Not doubting you, but it's hard to believe that someone would get hit in the chest and it not slowing him down. Tough guy or drug enhanced.

In grad school I sometimes worked a side gig as a bouncer. One home-game Saturday night I was outside the bar with a couple of rather intoxicated fellows, waiting for the cab I'd called to get them out of our hair. One wanted to go back inside, I said no. His buddy reached out to me--to grab me I thought--and suddenly, bang. Then things got kinetic for a bit, and by the time the doorman got there to assist both gentlemen were sitting on the ground.

Hit was on my left-hand breast pocket, balls didn't make it though the gloves in the pocket (hence my caution about relying on the load from a short-barreled piece in cold weather). It felt like a punch, though the jacket was smouldering from the muzzle blast and the gloves were trashed. No alcohol or drugs on my end, other than the serious adrenaline kick when the shot was fired.

As CZ93x62 pointed out, terminal ballistics has a lot in common with voodoo. Like Bret said, state of mind is a big factor but how can you calculate or predict something like that?

 

[Michael]

Just because someone makes something doesn’t mean there’s a need for it.

Companies don’t make products to fill some need. Companies make products to make MONEY.

It is called retail marketing. Even if it is something that is needed on a daily basis, marketing is geared to persuade the consumer to want "that" brand, version, or service. I don't blame Remington or any other company. I doubt that there is likely not a single person here that if it were his business wouldn't try his to market quality needed or even novelty, (in the eyes of some) products and/or services in order to be successful.

A single SWC mold for wheel guns, or a TCFN or RN would meet the basic needs 99.9% of the time. 22LR, '06, 375 H&H, and a 12 ga will cover everything that walks, crawls, or flies. How many of us only have 4 long arms, or 1 mold per side arm? If we don't need something, they do we buy it. Coke, Pepsi, RC, Dr. Pepper, 7-Up, boxers, briefs, M70, M700, M77, 19, 586, 686, 27, 28, Lay, Pringles, Ruffles, blondes, brunettes, redheads.

Multi-ball loads have been produced dating back to the 45-70 and the old .44 cal. Marble's Game Getter.

 

[CZ93X62]

Not doubting you, but it's hard to believe that someone would get hit in the chest and it not slowing him down. Tough guy or drug enhanced.

Most of the people that require ballistic responses are propelled by racing fuels, adrenaline, derangement, or a mix of those elements. Never say 'Never'; never say 'Always'.

Just Jim.......quite a story, sir. I love the expression 'Went kinetic'--that would have been very fitting when describing street realities succinctly in my past life.

 

[Rally]

Most of the people that require ballistic responses are propelled by racing fuels, adrenaline, derangement, or a mix of those elements. Never say 'Never'; never say 'Always'.

Just Jim.......quite a story, sir. I love the expression 'Went kinetic'--that would have been very fitting when describing street realities succinctly in my past life.

Very well put! The human body can be quite resilient in times of need, and also quite frail.

 

[Bret4207]

A night to remember Jim!!!