WW680

all the super-mags love it.
it's also numero-uno in the 25-20.
it'll run a 300 BO at sub speeds and function your AR too.
i've used it in my 0-6 with cast bullets using 4227 data as a starter.
it'll run your 375 win. cast loads clear up to too fast if you chose that route too.
 
Years ago I cabbaged on to an 8 lb jug of H116 for cheap. It was peddled as a white label surplus. Didn't use it for quite some time, but it turned out to be nearly identical or possible the same as 680 / 1680. Shoulda gotten more of it at the time had I realized what it was.
 
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you can slow it down of course by using less, but i'd make sure you have a decent crimp.
the powder is super fine and can get moved around by the primer pretty easily.
 
Well years ago I used WW680 in my 218 Bee Winchester 43, I’m talking 40 years ago.
But I remember it working nicely.
But, all of my early load data seems to be in parts unknown.
I’m now totally interested in using cast in mid range loadings. With jacketed bullets I have information in early Hornady manuals and others.
I’m currently working with Red Dot and have a few other powders that will work, but I have 7 or 8 pounds of WW680 that I’d like to use. I guess my main question with this Ball powder is can it be downloaded safely.
Interest is in the Hornet, BEE, and the 25-20.
I remember this thread and hoping revitalizing some interest in it.
 
Glaciers said:
Well years ago I used WW680 in my 218 Bee Winchester 43, I’m talking 40 years ago.
But I remember it working nicely.
But, all of my early load data seems to be in parts unknown.
I’m now totally interested in using cast in mid range loadings. With jacketed bullets I have information in early Hornady manuals and others.
I’m currently working with Red Dot and have a few other powders that will work, but I have 7 or 8 pounds of WW680 that I’d like to use. I guess my main question with this Ball powder is can it be downloaded safely.
Interest is in the Hornet, BEE, and the 25-20.
I remember this thread and hoping revitalizing some interest in it.
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Take a look in the Marlin Owners Group Forum. Under the thread 25-20 reloaders. Last time I took a serious look they were up to 85 pages! I went to that thread typed in the Search Community box the term WW680 and many responses showed up. Happy browsing.
 
i've never tried backing it down too much in the smaller cases.
when i need something medium like speed [1400 or so] in the 25-20 i reach for AA-2230.
i know, i know it doesn't answer the question, but that's how i worked around the problem.
 
I shoot the same 12.5 grains with the 35 grain Vmax in both the .22 Hornet and my .218 Bee . I still have 10 pounds of 680 but I have also used 1680 and it works the exact same. Also Lil Gun shoots exactly the same . I use small pistol primers only , tried all of the small rifles and none gave the same kind of accuracy. Have never tried cast but I'm considering it.
 
Edward R Southgate said:
I shoot the same 12.5 grains with the 35 grain Vmax in both the .22 Hornet and my .218 Bee . I still have 10 pounds of 680 but I have also used 1680 and it works the exact same. Also Lil Gun shoots exactly the same . I use small pistol primers only , tried all of the small rifles and none gave the same kind of accuracy. Have never tried cast but I'm considering it.
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Well good information. I guess I have heard that about SP primers compared to SR primers. I’ve believe I’ve heard that about the Hornet and the BEE as well.
Anyway thanks for pointing that out about the primers.
I just loaded up 5 - 25-20 dummies up with the Arsenal 70 grain in sized and deprimed brass. Got the seat and crimp figured out and ready to test for function.
Loaded the magazine on my Remington model 25 and the first jumped in and chambered just fine, ejected fine second cartridge would not lift out of the magazine. Could figure out why. Finally got a flashlight so I could get a glimpse of bullet to see what it was hanging up. Well that’s the last time I use deprimed brass for dummies, the flat point is just small enough to get stuck in the primer pocket.
If I was using jacketed bullets I would not be concerned about using 680. I just don’t know about reduced loads with the 680 ball powder.
But in cast I will be starting low probably with Red Dot. But once I’m more sure about fit, function and such than I will probably push the cast loads a bit.
I kind of group these three, Hornet, Bee and 25WCF in like loadings.
 
Never tried 680 in reduced loads or with cast either one. I think you will do well with the red dot in your m25 with cast . I have one but it won't feed from the magazine and I can't figure why. I would try the SP in the .25-20 also.
 
I have since acquited a 8# of this again.

I have been using it in a number of calibers

What I find with my batch is its Warm 1680. Meaning about 90% 1680 Data works. Specifically if 10g is max of 1680, Ill stop @ 9 of my 680.
But as in the past. Its a great powder for my needs.

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It's a powder (like IMR 4320 and Unique) that I'll never have too much or even enough of . Have seen it mentioned as a perfect powder for .357 Max and a few others that I don't load. Never could figure why they dropped either powder as both were popular sellers.
 
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