10" Kak barrel - 1:8, no handguard - lighter that way. Shot some more 100 h.j. hornady with 5.5gr cfe pistol - more normal report than 5 gr. Also 15 gr. 1680, 170gr PB RD style @ 1.915" COAl, 14gr. 1680, 185gr GC RD style @ 1.927 COAL. Lancer mag (did pmag for the H.J. also). Tried the 2 hand pistol grip with the barrel resting on caldwell front, SeeAll sight 25 yds. If I can stop my flinch, shooting would be better. All feed and worked fine. Alloy is 4# of my Zn/Cu/Pb mixed with 6# isocore, all 2x BLL. Also tried the 2 hand grip on the 308 carbine @ 50, (2400 fps load)not to bad - need to practice more. Will use the BO carbine to test accuracy next time.