Accurate Arms load data

Rex

Active Member
Could anyone please post .38 special load data using AA #5 from an original accurate data sheet? I can buy Accurate #5 here and will be using cast bullets.
Thanks a million,
Rex
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
caaan't quittte reach ma-n-ual from here..
it's 2 books too far.

that's pretty much the data above.
5 is a little grumpy when you cut it down much below start data, or cheap out on the crimp.
think of it kind of like unique with burn deterrent all over it.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
What little I have left of it I used for 38 Special loads with Ideal 358429 at 173 grains. At standard pressures I can get 850+ f/s from a revolver with 6 inch barrel.
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
Like you, and many others... I have books. :)
Yes, indeedy doody.

Hodgdon's been playing with their web-site and powder burn rate chart(s) for quite some time. Too, it's an example of what happens when a company has a monopoly on product -- Hodgdon, IMR, Winchester, Accurate, Ramshot.

Can't imagine how those who shun reloading manuals put up with constantly changing Internet data and page appearances.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
9-C would be 9 commercial.
i remember there being a section on the old Accurate site that gave the C-data powders crossover to the canister number.

i know the lot of DATA-9 powder i have is a direct crossover.

if it looks like it, and quacks like it,, i'd have to go with it being slightly faster...
 

358156 hp

At large, whereabouts unknown.
Yes, indeedy doody.

Hodgdon's been playing with their web-site and powder burn rate chart(s) for quite some time. Too, it's an example of what happens when a company has a monopoly on product -- Hodgdon, IMR, Winchester, Accurate, Ramshot.

Can't imagine how those who shun reloading manuals put up with constantly changing Internet data and page appearances.
For what we mostly do here, a lot of the old Ideal and Lyman manuals cover things very, very well. That is to say that they cover the mechanics of what we do very well. Some of the data is a bit outdated, and there has been a lot of new products introduced in the last sixty to seventy years that we need information on, but that's why books were invented in the first place. It's too bad that so many of the newcomers only seem to want the final answer.
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
It's too bad that so many of the newcomers only seem to want the final answer.
The reason why I self-exiled from that other site.

I gave away more manuals, during my downsizing project, than what I kept and they'll take care of all my reloading needs till the end. I really should buy another copy of Lyman's 45th -- it was dog-eared, had underlined and circled load data, and was falling apart when my reloading mentor gave it to me in '95 -- but the price has kept me away.

Last night I went to Hodgdon's new page layout. Man, what an abomination. Now, instead of selecting any number of a particular caliber's bullet weights and any number of listed powers, only one bullet weight and only one powder can be selected. Ninety-nine per cent useless. Yep, I have manuals and know how to read.
 

Rex

Active Member
I need some newer manuals. If you need any data for Dupont 5066 or Dupont #6 I can help you out a bit.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Lyman #50 has data for some of the discontinued powders, and they told me they will never reprint that data. FWIW
 

358156 hp

At large, whereabouts unknown.
Check out the gunshows and auction sites for the old manufacturers handouts. They all had them. Yes, they were once free. Yes, now you have to pay for them if you want them, plus shipping.

One of my saddest experiences with manuals was Hodgdon. Their bound manuals were incredible, they had so much information. The last one was #27, and was loose leaf style. Their original intent was to offer updates by caliber for a nominal fee. This never came about, and when people started complaining the went to the disposable magazine style format, and cut the outside content.

Scurrilous dogs!
 

JustJim

Well-Known Member
9-C would be 9 commercial.
i remember there being a section on the old Accurate site that gave the C-data powders crossover to the canister number.

i know the lot of DATA-9 powder i have is a direct crossover.

if it looks like it, and quacks like it,, i'd have to go with it being slightly faster...
Thanks Fiver. I hit the Internet Archive and did some digging, haven't found anything yet (I did download every one of the pdfs of the "gimme books" of load data, and all data for the Data powders they still had). Worst case, I'll do some experimenting using AA9 data as a starting point.