Any Guy Loverin fans out there ?

L Ross

L Ross

Well-Known Member
Maxjon said:
I'm considering a CBE 190gn GC Loverin for .308
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Despite my flippant comment, it was not to disparage the Loverin style bullet. I have two or three around here and when sized large enough, (for me .311" in .30 cal. and .325" in 8 m/m), and pushed through nose first in a Star lubri-sizer they shoot splendidly. When I was a new caster in the 70's I trusted everything I read. Over the years I learned that .308"/.309" was too small for my .30's, and .322"/.323" sucked for my 8 m/m. I also learned there were better options than the Lyman 45/450.

I'm certain you will be happy with your 190 gr. in your .308.
 
Edward R Southgate

Edward R Southgate

Component Hoarder Extraordiniare
I have the 266469 in a double cavity . Cast 200 about 10 years ago to try in my CG 63 but got busy and never got around to it . :rofl:
 
RBHarter

RBHarter

West Central AR
The 469 actually wasn't bad sized .265 and patched up to .272 in a 6.5 Arisaka ......it's the only time with a Loverne design I've had anything resembling good results . I tried them in 7mm and 30 cal as well in 6 rifles .
 
Ian

Ian

Notorious member
I still prefer the Eagan MX-3 profile over the Loverin and a complex, concave tapered solid nose with either one or two grease grooves over that.
 
L Ross

L Ross

Well-Known Member
Ian said:
I still prefer the Eagan MX-3 profile over the Loverin and a complex, concave tapered solid nose with either one or two grease grooves over that.
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Maxjon, Ian makes a great point. The Loverin style would not be my first choice nowadays.The Lee 312-155-2R would be my first choice in .30 caliber if performance AND economy was paramount. If not, and I could find the mould, the XCB shoots a skosh flatter in my trials, though on any given day one is as accurate as the other. A further disclaimer, my cast rifle ammo is in the 1,400 to 1,800 fps velocity range. These velocities are easy on recoil, easy on powder consumption, attainable with a wide variety of powders, do not damage my targets, and let me learn to deal with wind and trajectories at ranges available on my property where I am limited to maybe 500 yards.

Just as a .22 lets me experience the difficulties of wind and trajectory at 100 to 300 yards, cast bullet ammo at modest velocities provide challenges at the 200 to 500 yard distances I have tried. The above mentioned moulds are giving me 2 MOA ammo and better.

Plus at 160 grains vs 190 grains per bullet you'd save alloy.
 
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fiver

fiver

Well-Known Member
and recoil at the higher speeds.
I quit the XCB and 308 project when the recoil started crossing my eyes over, and it only weighs 165grs.
I know I would have quit much sooner if I was using 6-7lb. hunting type rifles rather than those much heavier bench guns.
 
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Maxjon

Member
I have the Lee 312-155, and RCBS 180FN.....the 190 loverin, I was looking at does not have tapered bands, so that's out for me......
 
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Maxjon

Member
I'm going to stick with my original choice of this one, for high speed .308 target....it has a nose of .298 which should enable me to seat it with the base inside the case neck. Which I believe is an accuracy boom!
 

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waco

waco

Springfield, Oregon
Maxjon said:
I'm going to stick with my original choice of this one, for high speed .308 target....it has a nose of .298 which should enable me to seat it with the base inside the case neck. Which I believe is an accuracy boom!
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May I ask how fast you are pushing these and what kind of accuracy are you getting at 100 yards?
 
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Maxjon

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waco said:
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Its something I have achieved with the lee 312-155 SP, but It the throat of my rifle see's the bullet base hanging below the neck, where I don't want it. Hence why I want something with a .298 nose
 
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