Barrel Length ????

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
I'll weigh in on this topic.

A snubnose is a fighting tool for concealed carry, so that's its role. And for me that equates to a 2.5" or shorter barrel and an internal hammer or a bobbed hammer. I am never, never, never going to put that tool into single action mode.

I have an unusual attraction to 3" barreled DA revolvers, mostly because they pack well and still provide a good sight radius. The 3" barreled S&W Model 13 was one of the few good ideas the FBI ever had.

A 4" barreled DA revolver is an "all around" gun that carries well, has a decent sight radius and provides an excellent compromise between ease of carry and useful performance.

For me, anything over 4" in barrel length starts getting into some very specialized territory. A 6" barreled DA revolver is a dedicated hunting or target gun for me. I know that others may not share that view, and that's fine.
I've always considered a handgun to be a bad substitute for a long gun. Handguns exist because it is often impractical to carry a long gun. There comes a point where I might as well just carry a long gun.

I have a few 6" or longer revolvers but they are strictly range toys.

Over the course of my adult life, I've spent a lot of time prowling gun shops. I've always noticed that used revolvers with 6" barrels or longer outnumber the shorter barreled revolvers that are offered for sale. This includes both used guns on consignment and used guns owned by the dealer. I believe people buy those longer revolvers but come to the conclusion that they are a bit unwieldy. Those guns get placed on consignment or traded for other guns while 4" and shorter barreled revolvers are not traded or sold as often.

For people that CARRY handguns as opposed to people that SHOOT handguns, that extra weight and bulk is a constant annoyance. Target shooters and hunters want that extra sight radius and maybe a little more velocity. It's not the amount of the annoyance that is significant, it is the mere existence of the annoyance. When someone opines that a 6" barreled revolver, "isn't that much more difficult" to carry than a 4" barrled gun, they are acknowledging that there is at least some additional burden. While that extra burden might not be significant to them, it clearly matters to the person that intentionally selected a shorter barreled revolver.

None of the above opinion is set in stone. It is, after all, just opinion.
 

Rick H

Well-Known Member
I carried a handgun in my work for some 31 yrs. when I knew I was responding to a situation/call that involved the likelihood of being opposed by someone who was armed .... I always came carrying a long gun, 12 ga. pump or a 5.56 rifle/carbine. Never had to use the long gun. I like to think that, on at least a couple of occasions, the long gun discouraged the other fella enough that I didnt have to use it. Can say the same for my blued Colt 1911 with polished muzzle being a deterrent. I carried a handgun all the time because you just never knew....(still do when outside my home.)
Bah, thread drift. I like handguns, shoot them pretty well, for me they have to carry well too. Now that I'm retired, if I know I'm heading into a gunfight I can go the other freaking way.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
I choose and load everything for the hunt . I have a set of rules that fit that . As a rule autos aren't built around cartridges that met the Nevada rules , 1.280 or longer case 24 cal or larger for big game , there are a lot of holes in that , and a 4" minimum barrel length . That leaves Auto Mags , Desert Eagles , and that Grizzly Arms with the 9mm Win mag .

That leaves every cartridge in a mag length case from 256 Win up including things like 25&32-20 if memory serves . Everything but 2 S&W I've had had 4"+ barrels . The 6" Sec 6 I didn't care for in the field it's almost like it was too much and not enough all at once . The 7.5" BH was never an issue .... Might have just been the way they ride and the holsters . I did have a Chiefs Special 38 . I didn't hate carrying it I just hated shooting it I finally got a +P 158 to hit to the sights but it was a very +p it never occurred to me to try 125s ......
The Bubba'd 1917 was cut at 3.5" and now that I don't have the 4" restrictions and a 18-20kpsi Schofield load is a real thing that has become a really practical choice for field and business except for the common ammo thing and that it shoots about 3 ft high at 50 yd . Lotta work to do there yet .

So 2.5-3" autos cool , I'd jump on a 5" 1911 if it and a suitable purse showed up together .
Under 3.5" and over 7.5" revolvers , no draw for me .

Exceptions are of course scale aesthetics .
 

waco

Springfield, Oregon
Simply Rugged now out of Prescott Az makes a chest rig which is designed for chest mount or with a little adjustment will function as a shoulder holster.. It's called the Chester Pully I believe. It works with a number of Robb's pancake holsters.
I ordered one for use when charter fishing. A standard belt holster when sitting on the inflatable tube of a skiff was a recipe for a lost sixgun. Ordered it just in time to close the business for good. Never used it.
I bought one for the Bisley. Works well. I like it. 077BF902-258F-427B-9D80-1870A2C65061.jpeg
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
Hmmmm.......head-count time. One 2" Get-Off-Me Pocket Rocket, four 7.5" single actions for hunting (22LR/22WMR, 357 Mag, 44 Mag, and 45 Colt), everything else runs from 4" to 6.5". Those latter numbers are about even 4", 5", and 6"-6.5" tubes. Those 5" D/A wheelguns are a treat, kind of "Best of both worlds" between 4" and 6.5". Probably the nicest revolver I ever owned was an early 60s S&W Model 27 x 5". I have a pre-27 that lettered as a 3.5"/built 1953 but arrived with 6.5" barrel, and needs to be re-fit (.011" flash-gap). Since it isn't "original", I am weighing a re-fit with the present barrel or with an OEM 5" barrel--assuming such a thing exists in the known world. AUGH. First World problems.

There is a longer story involving this revolver, not germane to this thread. Since I may be stuck in the wheelchair for a few more days, I might compose the history and present it here.
 
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Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
CZ93X62 - I wish you a speedy recovery.

A Pre-Model 27 that originally had a 3.5" is a story all in itself. Finding a 5" tube for that gun may prove to be a challenge but that adventure may worth trying. If that proves impossible, you can always set the barrel back a thread.
 

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
On the topic of barrel length, there was a time when the LAPD issued S&W Model 14 revolvers with 6" barrels. In fact, many LE agencies issued revolvers with 6" tubes. The practice was almost universally abandoned in favor of 4" barreled revolvers. LAPD actually cut down the barrels of some of their model 14's and re-attached the front sight. (LAPD also removed the SA sear notch rendering the guns DAO)
There were a multitude of reasons the 6" barrels fell out of favor but the need to get in & out of a car was one of the many reasons. That 6" barrel was reported to be difficult to live with.
Some agencies even went to 3" barrels. The FBI adopted the S&W Model 13 with a 3" heavy barrel and a round butt grip frame. That gave them a gun that was easy to carry and conceal.
 

Gary

SE Kansas
My issue is the holster part. They were fine until I began having medical problems and know am so "portly" they are uncomfortable to wear. While I can wear a gun belt and holster if I never sit down. :rofl:
Maybe you just need a bigger belt?
 

Missionary

Well-Known Member
We have a S&W M13 with the 3" tube. Makes fine shoulder holster carry. My avatar shows an M13 with a hoe brewed Hip Clip. That is a great way to carry on foot and 2 wheeler. The fatter grip really tames 158s and 170gr cast. In a car it is my first choice.
 

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
The 3" RB Model 13 and its stainless twin the 3" model 65, are remarkable tools. I'm not prone to praise the FBI but I'll give credit where credit is due. The 3" Model 13 was an excellent platform.
Fixed sights, chambered for the .357 Mag, round butt, full length ejector rod, easy to carry & conceal.

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Here's a 2.75" Speed-Six and a 3" Model 65
 

StrawHat

Well-Known Member
The topic of barrel length is often amusing. Preferences are based on a multitude of perceptions not all of which are factual.

Personally, in the I and J frames I see the 3” barrel as ideal followed closley by the 4”.

On a K frame, I like a 5” barrel.

N frames best serve me with 4” tapered barrels.

That is what makes this old man happy

Kevin
 

Rockydoc

Well-Known Member
We have a S&W M13 with the 3" tube. Makes fine shoulder holster carry. My avatar shows an M13 with a hoe brewed Hip Clip. That is a great way to carry on foot and 2 wheeler. The fatter grip really tames 158s and 170gr cast. In a car it is my first choice.
That Hip Clip is interesting. Could you please show us a picture of it?
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
No huge issue medically, just a wear point on the prosthetic causing some problems. The technician's magick is not taking hold well. Staying out of the Fake Foot to let the wear point heal is a PITA.
 

Missionary

Well-Known Member
Photos of the hoe made Hip-Grip. 20 + years ago a company was producing these usually of black plastic. They still show up on the E place.
Top side..... Right side.... Left side ... and how it attaches to belt or waistband.
 

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Rockydoc

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Photos of the hoe made Hip-Grip. 20 + years ago a company was producing these usually of black plastic. They still show up on the E place.
Top side..... Right side.... Left side ... and how it attaches to belt or waistband.
Clever. Thanks for the photos. I never could figure out what your avatar was.
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
I prefer 4” or shorter and pretty much mirror P&P in opinion. I’ve got an LCR that works for cc, but wear a S&W 60-3 on my belt most often in the woods, a S&W 63 before that went everywhere on my trap line. I’ve shot more deer and bear with my 629 and 624; both are 6”. Either is in my hand while on stand or driving deer, and a holster is nice when dragging a deer or bear out of the woods or field dressing same. i don’t like scopes on pistols nor shoulder rigs. I’ve got lots of short carbines to Carry in the brush if it is going to take two hands for a steady hold. I own a couple High Standard Sport kings with 7.5“ barrels, but use them target shooting and don’t find them easy to carry.
 

Missionary

Well-Known Member
Well I guess I will need a new one (avatar). The e place has many real Hip Grips for sale from $10 - $19. In at least 4 different colors. Black is all I knew about. They make CC with a revolver very nice.
There is a newer version called Hip-Clip. Same idea for semi-auto.