CBD!

Status
Not open for further replies.

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
Interesting, in that majority of Medical Marijuana card holders are suffering from PTSD. Probably, ex-service.
And did they test the soldiers that were in country of the Vietnam War?
As you know, I was in-country '68-'69 thus by no means am I making light of those truly suffering from PTSD, and I know a neighbor and an ex-neighbor who were in-country and are sufferers. However, just as there are an estimated 5 million men of Viet Nam War age who say they were in-county, but weren't and are nothing more than outright liars, I suspect that many of those who claim to have PTSD, as a result of the war, don't. Has the V. A. diagnosed their condition, or was it a private practice doctor? It makes a huge difference.drug t

I don't know if drug testing was ever done, during the war, but it wasn't in my squadron (got a lot of inoculations, though). I think Rich is correct.
 

richhodg66

Well-Known Member
View attachment 33190And did they test the soldiers that were in country of the Vietnam War?

THC is found in all CBD oil, that Uncle Sam legally ships, throughout the United States. Alaska & Hawaii might be a different situation.

Distilled oil has <2 mg/ serving and is undetectable in those that are subject to drug testing............that's its main selling point. The whole flower (undistilled) can have up to 2 mg/serving and might be detectable in drug testing.

That being said, there must be a threshold acceptable level, since these products are deemed legal.

Here's an article that was posted today by our local radio station.


Interesting, in that majority of Medical Marijuana card holders are suffering from PTSD. Probably, ex-service.
I'm too young to have served in Vietnam, entered the Army in 88 and retired in 2012. I have known and spoken with a lot of Vietnam vets over the years and the whole "evey guy in Vietnam was a doper" thing you are referring to as accepted fact is way overblown and mostly a hollywood creation. Seems the worst drug use in the Army was post Vietnam in the 70s and early 80s.

Just an honest question; were you in the military during Vietnam?
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
I was attending Eastern MIchigan University, as a Freshman. That was also the year they instituted the draft lottery. I drew #342, so I was pretty much guaranteed that I wouldn't be drafted.

I had no intentions of going to college. That was my parents idea. Grudgingly, I went. I wanted to join the Navy. Father served in the AF, during WWII.

10403852_10103892009738103_5832519763622083609_o.jpg

scan0006.jpg

Turret gunner in B-24 or 25, I forget which. He never talked about it.
 

richhodg66

Well-Known Member
Ok, then.

Another myth that the only guys who served in Vietnam were forced by the draft. My older brother was a SeaBee over there, not 100% but I don't think the Navy took draftees. The last high school I taught at had six alumni killed in combat, five in Vietnam and one in Iraqi Frredom. I went to rather great lengths to research them and build memorial shadow boxes with their pictures and awards. Of those five Vietnam KIAs, two were Marines, no draft, one was Navy, no draft, of the three Army, one was an officer and the other two had RA serial numbers which meant they were volunteers, so none of those five went due to being forced. Contrary to the popular myth perpetuated by Hollywood, those guys were all patriotic Americans who did it voluntarily, nobody had to make them.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Another myth that the only guys who served in Vietnam were forced by the draft. My older brother was a SeaBee over there, not 100% but I don't think the Navy took draftees. The last high school I taught at had six alumni killed in combat, five in Vietnam and one in Iraqi Frredom. I went to rather great lengths to research them and build memorial shadow boxes with their pictures and awards. Of those five Vietnam KIAs, two were Marines, no draft, one was Navy, no draft, of the three Army, one was an officer and the other two had RA serial numbers which meant they were volunteers, so none of those five went due to being forced. Contrary to the popular myth perpetuated by Hollywood, those guys were all patriotic Americans who did it voluntarily, nobody had to make them.
I enlisted to go to Flight School in January 1968. The day I was sworn in, there were about 40 draftee being inducted and 10 of us RA's, volunteers. The draftees were lined up down the hallway and counted off by three's. Everyone who was a three was told to step forward and marched down they hallway. There they were meet by a USMC staff sergeant and were sent to the Marines. The USMC only drafted from January 1968 through September 1970. I have no hard numbers, but I believe less than 50,000, all Infantry, Combat Engineers or Artillery.

Now that was kind of a bad deal for some, as they were committed for 24 months. Their normal time was 6 months of training, Infantry, one month leave and then assigned to Pendleton for preparation for shipment. Now because they were Marines, that was a 13 month tour in RVN. However, if they survived and returned to CONUS, they had less than 90 days to serve and were immediately released having served 21 months and some days.

I spent the last five months in RVN as the Battalion Personnel Specialist, and interviewed every enlisted man under the rank of E-6 for a job assignment. Less than 10% were US (draftees) and many of them were lawyers, engineers and other college graduates. The rest were part of McNamara's 100,000, draftees with an IQ of less than 90 or a permanent physical impairment. About 2,500,000 US citizens served in country in RVN.

Ric, 31 Engineer Battalion (Combat) (Airmobile)
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
I enlisted to go to Flight School in January 1968. The day I was sworn in, there were about 40 draftee being inducted and 10 of us RA's, volunteers. The draftees were lined up down the hallway and counted off by three's. Everyone who was a three was told to step forward and marched down they hallway. There they were meet by a USMC staff sergeant and were sent to the Marines. The USMC only drafted from January 1968 through September 1970. I have no hard numbers, but I believe less than 50,000, all Infantry, Combat Engineers or Artillery.

Now that was kind of a bad deal for some, as they were committed for 24 months. Their normal time was 6 months of training, Infantry, one month leave and then assigned to Pendleton for preparation for shipment. Now because they were Marines, that was a 13 month tour in RVN. However, if they survived and returned to CONUS, they had less than 90 days to serve and were immediately released having served 21 months and some days.

I spent the last five months in RVN as the Battalion Personnel Specialist, and interviewed every enlisted man under the rank of E-6 for a job assignment. Less than 10% were US (draftees) and many of them were lawyers, engineers and other college graduates. The rest were part of McNamara's 100,000, draftees with an IQ of less than 90 or a permanent physical impairment. About 2,500,000 US citizens served in country in RVN.

Ric, 31 Engineer Battalion (Combat) (Airmobile)
Thanks, Rich, for confirming what I thought was true of Marines being drafted. Air Force was a four-year voluntary stint, also I volunteered for Viet Nam and returned to the World with 22-months remaining.

"About 2,500,000 US citizens served in country in RVN."
Yep, but an additional 5 million claim they had the privilege. Wonder how many of them claim to have PTSD so they can get medical marijuana prescriptions.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Thanks, Rich, for confirming what I thought was true of Marines being drafted. Air Force was a four-year voluntary stint, also I volunteered for Viet Nam and returned to the World with 22-months remaining.

"About 2,500,000 US citizens served in country in RVN."
Yep, but an additional 5 million claim they had the privilege. Wonder how many of them claim to have PTSD so they can get medical marijuana prescriptions.
Took part in the "Stolen Valor" VFW campaign when it began about 25 years ago. It is really easy, "Show me your DD-214 with RVN Campaign Medal award." Now that includes Thailand, Laos, Cambodia and "waters surrounding" but I don't know exactly what those were.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 462

Rick

Moderator
Staff member
Was for a couple of years during Nam that was the only time the Marines had a 2 year enlistment and that I know of the only time the Marines were using the draft.

Like John when they did the lottery my number was like 360 something. Problem though, I wasn't in a college dorm, I was already in boot camp. :mad:
 
Status
Not open for further replies.