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RBHarter

West Central AR
I'm sure someone has smoked a rope . When speaking of intoxicating canibus we aren't as far as I know discussing rope hemp . I'm fairly confident that indica etc is closer to Acapulco gold than rope hemp .

As to how things effect people I'm one of those 1/10,000 that is functionally intoxicated drinking diet sodas at a rate of about 80% of common malt beverages . Peer pressure, had one hit 1 time about 40 years ago, spent all night puking . Even in the hospital on pharmaceutical grades I've never "enjoyed the effects" because I didn't have any ......there was that anesthesiologist that said "you'll feel a little burn it's going to be like having a couple of beers" . They need a better line cause I've never had enough alcohol let alone beer the make the counter do the lavatotter thing . I guess I'm not an addictive kind of person.
 

Snakeoil

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The best argument for pot over booze is I doubt that any one stoned on pot has started a bar fight.

When the legalized pot in NY, I always wanted to see some hippy, with a joint hanging out of his mouth standing in line at DMV to get his license renewed.

I know two guys who pretty much could not function (at least in their minds) in public unless they were stoned. They smoked all day, every day. One was actually on a jobsite, smoking a joint in his car on break. How he never got caught was always amazing to me.

Many years ago, we were building a big, combined cycle power plant in Trinidad. Needless to say, most of the labor was local. The crane operator, who was running a 150 ton lattice boom crane with energized transmission lines overhead, was a Rastafarian. When they weren't making a lift, he would just sit in the cab of the crane smoking a joint that looked more like a corn cob. There was never an accident. But our guys made sure they stayed in the clear whenever he was making a pick.
 

Rick

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Smoke a joint and it's still in your system 4-5 days later. I was subject to random drug tests at work, smoke a joint on Friday night and get fired next Monday after peeing in the bottle. No, the Teamster union would not back you up, your career is over. Zero tolerance.
 

Snakeoil

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Smoke a joint and it's still in your system 4-5 days later. I was subject to random drug tests at work, smoke a joint on Friday night and get fired next Monday after peeing in the bottle. No, the Teamster union would not back you up, your career is over. Zero tolerance.
We had a secretary that left the company and moved south. She got a job with a Japanese company. They drug tested all new hires. She failed. She told them she had been at a party where pot was being used and must've inhaled second hand smoke. They told her come back in 6 months. She did and passed. I seem to remember that they told her it stays in your system for a lot longer than a few days. So, I did a search and found this.

Urine testing is the most common drug testing method Trusted Source. While detection windows may vary, a 2017 review suggests that weed may be detectable in urine for the following amounts of time after last use:

  • single use: 3 days
  • moderate use (four times per week): 5 to 7 days
  • chronic use (daily): 10 to 15 days
  • chronic heavy use (multiple times per day): more than 30 days
Cannabis metabolites are fat-soluble, which means they bind to fat molecules in your body. As a result, it can take some time for them to leave your system, particularly if you have more fat molecules in your body.

Blood tests typically detect recent cannabis useTrusted Source, or use that has occurred within the last 2 to 12 hours. However, in cases of heavy use, it’s been detected 30 days after last useTrusted Source. Chronic heavy use increases the length of time that it can be detected.

Saliva testing​

Saliva testing has a short window of detection, and in some casesTrusted Source may detect same-day cannabis use.

A 2020 review found that THC was still detected in the oral fluid of frequent smokers 72 hours after use. THC may be detected in oral fluid longer than in blood after acute use.

Weed can enter the saliva through smoking and exposure to smoke. However, its metabolites are only present in saliva when weed has been smoked or ingested.

In jurisdictions where weed is illegal, oral fluid may be used for roadside testing.

Hair testing​

Hair follicle tests can assess drug use for up to 90 daysTrusted Source. After use, cannabinoids reach the hair follicles via small blood vessels, as well as from sebum and sweat surrounding the hair shaft.

Since hair grows approximately 0.5 inches per month, a 1.5-inch hair segment taken close to the scalp can provide a window of weed use for the past 3 months.
 

JustJim

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I doubt you sincerely care, but a quick google search of Big Nugget Farm will bring up a website with all the Lab analysis'
Actually, I was curious. I've heard medical claims for various cannabinoids but hadn't seen any actual research on the efficacy.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Big difference between in your system and impaired..............just saying. Plenty of frequent drug users out on the street. You can thank out our revolving door judicial system, for that.
 

Rick

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Big difference between in your system and impaired..............just saying. Plenty of frequent drug users out on the street. You can thank out our revolving door judicial system, for that.

Not according to my employers. Find it in you and it's down the road with you. No pension, no health benefits.
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
We had a secretary that left the company and moved south. She got a job with a Japanese company. They drug tested all new hires. She failed. She told them she had been at a party where pot was being used and must've inhaled second hand smoke. They told her come back in 6 months. She did and passed. I seem to remember that they told her it stays in your system for a lot longer than a few days. So, I did a search and found this.

Urine testing is the most common drug testing method Trusted Source. While detection windows may vary, a 2017 review suggests that weed may be detectable in urine for the following amounts of time after last use:

  • single use: 3 days
  • moderate use (four times per week): 5 to 7 days
  • chronic use (daily): 10 to 15 days
  • chronic heavy use (multiple times per day): more than 30 days
Cannabis metabolites are fat-soluble, which means they bind to fat molecules in your body. As a result, it can take some time for them to leave your system, particularly if you have more fat molecules in your body.

Blood tests typically detect recent cannabis useTrusted Source, or use that has occurred within the last 2 to 12 hours. However, in cases of heavy use, it’s been detected 30 days after last useTrusted Source. Chronic heavy use increases the length of time that it can be detected.

Saliva testing​

Saliva testing has a short window of detection, and in some casesTrusted Source may detect same-day cannabis use.

A 2020 review found that THC was still detected in the oral fluid of frequent smokers 72 hours after use. THC may be detected in oral fluid longer than in blood after acute use.

Weed can enter the saliva through smoking and exposure to smoke. However, its metabolites are only present in saliva when weed has been smoked or ingested.

In jurisdictions where weed is illegal, oral fluid may be used for roadside testing.

Hair testing​

Hair follicle tests can assess drug use for up to 90 daysTrusted Source. After use, cannabinoids reach the hair follicles via small blood vessels, as well as from sebum and sweat surrounding the hair shaft.

Since hair grows approximately 0.5 inches per month, a 1.5-inch hair segment taken close to the scalp can provide a window of weed use for the past 3 months.
I've resisted posting, but Rob's above post goes a long way toward explaining why so many local young men and women are unemployed. Couple legalized dope usage with the now-all-too-common poor education and you have an endless supply of functionally useless wards of the state.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Not according to my employers. Find it in you and it's down the road with you. No pension, no health benefits.
In the first place, drug testing of current employees, is a violation of their rights. The average worker only works 5 days a week or 40 hours. Employer has no right to make you tow the line for the other 16 hours/day, of a normal work week. Let alone the weekends.

Any union worth its salt would see to that. I worked for the UAW for 36 years and was never subject to a random drug test. Fighting and theft are the only grounds for automatic dismissal.............and they always come back with compensation for lost wages..............that's why it's called bargaining.
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
In the first place, drug testing of current employees, is a violation of their rights. The average worker only works 5 days a week or 40 hours. Employer has no right to make you tow the line for the other 16 hours/day, of a normal work week. Let alone the weekends.

Any union worth its salt would see to that. I worked for the UAW for 36 years and was never subject to a random drug test. Fighting and theft are the only grounds for automatic dismissal.............and they always come back with compensation for lost wages..............that's why it's called bargaining.
My son is a unionized industrial electrician working at an East Bay oil refinery, and the employees are subject to random drug testing. It's real.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Police and Firefighters in my state have had random drug testing for at least 20 years. A positive test is not a firing situation, but counseling and rehab will be in your future.
 

Rick

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In the first place, drug testing of current employees, is a violation of their rights. The average worker only works 5 days a week or 40 hours. Employer has no right to make you tow the line for the other 16 hours/day, of a normal work week. Let alone the weekends.

Any union worth its salt would see to that. I worked for the UAW for 36 years and was never subject to a random drug test. Fighting and theft are the only grounds for automatic dismissal.............and they always come back with compensation for lost wages..............that's why it's called bargaining.

:rofl:

No, at least in CA drug testing is both extremely common and legal. And another point, we were pushing big rigs around not fixing leaking sinks.
 

fiver

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man i took so many damn random tests.
funny thing is i always got them on the morning of a 'yard day', i'm pretty sure it's because i was the only one they didn't see at the bar 4 hrs. ago.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
I went 2 yr without getting called then peed in the cup 3 times in a week and 1 more the next week. Random.... Also zero tolerance.

High value B complexes , tonic water, Midal and Ivory soap will throw false positives for weed , NyQuil throws a positive for everything. Afrin nose spray in particular but not exclusively will test positive as meth .
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
In the first place, drug testing of current employees, is a violation of their rights. The average worker only works 5 days a week or 40 hours. Employer has no right to make you tow the line for the other 16 hours/day, of a normal work week. Let alone the weekends.

Any union worth its salt would see to that. I worked for the UAW for 36 years and was never subject to a random drug test. Fighting and theft are the only grounds for automatic dismissal.............and they always come back with compensation for lost wages..............that's why it's called bargaining.
Really? I underwent random drug testing for over 20 years. Never a squeak from the union. You sign on the paper when you take the job and it's in your contract.
 

richhodg66

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The Army always said THC would stsy in one's system for 30 days detectable levels to cause failure on the urinalysis tests the used. It was required to test ten percent of your soldiers each month so each unit hit 100% +over the course of a year. Most units did a lot more than that.

I have a couple of disks in my lower back going south and it used to cause major, debilitating back spasms that were the worst oain imaginable. These would last about a week and I'd pretty much be a cripple. Since then, I did some physical therapy sessions which really helped and haven't had one of those attacks since, but the last time, #2 son suggested those CBD gummies. Motrin ang the like was doing absolutely nothing, and it hurt bad enough I'd have tried heroin if someone hsd offered it. Strangely, a couple of those CBD gummies seemed to take the edge off of it. Not a real scientific assessment, but I'm going to keep it in mind when I have to deal with something like that. I really hate taking meds. Been prescribed pain killers for tooth exractions and such and chose not to take them. If something like the CBD stuff can help, I'm all for it.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
The Army always said THC would stsy in one's system for 30 days detectable levels to cause failure on the urinalysis tests the used. It was required to test ten percent of your soldiers each month so each unit hit 100% +over the course of a year. Most units did a lot more than that.
confused-face-smiley-emoticon.gifAnd did they test the soldiers that were in country of the Vietnam War?

THC is found in all CBD oil, that Uncle Sam legally ships, throughout the United States. Alaska & Hawaii might be a different situation.

Distilled oil has <2 mg/ serving and is undetectable in those that are subject to drug testing............that's its main selling point. The whole flower (undistilled) can have up to 2 mg/serving and might be detectable in drug testing.

That being said, there must be a threshold acceptable level, since these products are deemed legal.

Here's an article that was posted today by our local radio station.


Interesting, in that majority of Medical Marijuana card holders are suffering from PTSD. Probably, ex-service.
 

richhodg66

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I don't think the military started drug testing until the 80s. About the only thing i remember guys coming back hot on a test for was marijuana. It seems most opiods are out of your system quicker. So to catch an abuser of those means it was a lucky shot or he's doing it a lot, which you wouldn't need to wait for a piss test to know it.
 
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