GC Question.....

Bret4207

Bret4207

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RCoulter52 said:
The 350 Legend is loaded with a .355 bullet. Why Winchester did this is not completely understood.

Randie
Fort Smith, AR
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What you use with jacketed isn't always going to work with cast, especially as you up the speeds. Regardless of what they say the bore is, I'd figure on more than .355 for sure. Start by measuring a case mouth ID that's been fired with a full load. There will be a little spring back, but it will give you place to start. Slugging the barrel is even better. Aim for +.001 over groove diameter to start with and see how they chamber.
 
fiver

fiver

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I'm still not sure what Winchester was going for with this round.
I don't think it was the straight wall hunting crowd, but then it sorta got adopted by them and they had to put some pressure on the lawmakers of those states to allow their rifles to be included.
I guess merely marking the boxes of ammo as containing ''358 diameter bullets'' met the minimum requirements, whether they actually were or not.

so has anyone actually ever seen any, say,, 200gr bullets on the shelf marked .355, or anything reloading related marked for the 350 legend on the side of the box?
 
CWLONGSHOT

CWLONGSHOT

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There are now a few makers marked bullets plus a hand full of small makers offering .355 bullets for the Legend

Big ones are Hornady 165 & 170 and of coarse Winchesters 180's.
Maker and Leigh Defense both make 350 Legend specific bullets. Dennis at Furry is also makes some now.

But as "we" know none will be truly superior to Lead and Lead Alloy bullets casters produce exactly for the velocity needed.

This is NOT a long range caliber. Its expressly designed as a safe replacement for a Shotgun. So INSIDE 200 yards. RIGHT in the Lead Bullets wheel house.
CW
 
RBHarter

RBHarter

West Central AR
I think they just had an over run mistake of over length 9mm Win Mag and thought " geez it seems a waste to have to cut it all down let's just run a 9×25 reamer deep and give it a catchy name " .
 
CWLONGSHOT

CWLONGSHOT

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Thats my thought. The "youngster's" where banking on the popularity of the 9mm carring thru to this...
ONLY NO 9MM RIFLE bullets exist... At least mot in the US. And Not of the weight class this caliber was designed for fire.

CW
 
CZ93X62

CZ93X62

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Winelover said:
That's why I opt to stay with the tried and true calibers. The new fangled ones tend to be a passing fad.
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Yep, think "348 Winchester" in that context.

I've never messed with the European 9mm rifles like the 9 x 57 Mauser, don't know what its bullet diameter(s) might be. Here in North America, those RWS etc. components are likely very scarce and quite expensive--again mimicking the 348 Winchester.
 
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RBHarter

RBHarter

West Central AR
They would have done better with a 9×39 or straight wall 357 Herret rimless in 22 NOS brass or 6.8 (that needs a different bolt face the NOS is the same case rebated to 223 rim) but the 284 wasn't exploited in the short/fat craze , no instead everybody went to the Rigby/H&H beltless mag rim .......

300 Gibbs anyone ?
 
Bliksem

Bliksem

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RCoulter52 said:
Long time re-loader/caster, but have not used gas checks (all of my casting has been for handgun).

Now, with the bullets I need being extremely hard to find, I am considering running some .358, 158 grain semi-wadcutters through a .355 or .356 sizer to experiment with in my 350 Legend. My question is, does a bullet have to be designed to use a gas check OR can they be used on any style of bullet?

I know that this is probably an elementary question, but in 39 years of casting have never used a gas check.

Thanks in advance for any and all assistance in this matter,
Randie
Fort Smith, AR
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As others have pointed out it depends on the mold design. Some have the heeled shanks that accept conventional checks but Plain Base (PB) gas checks can be used on any design that does not have the shank.

Utilizing Powder Coating you can use softer alloy and still push to a respectable velocity and to increase the velocity even more, yet retain accuracy, a PB check can be added.

I get my PB checks from Shamus Sage and prefer to crimp them in place after Powder Coating. I have had great success with this method and appreciate the flexibility that the PB checks offer when it comes to choosing a mold design as I can use the cast bullets for mild shooting without the check and add them if I want/need to push the speed up.

I currently use PB checks for 35/44/45/458 calibers and other that needing to tweak my sizing dies a little there is hardly any difference in the effort and time taken to fit them. Oh, PB checks are significantly cheaper than the regular gilded/copper ones. They also work perfectly well in Direct Impingement actions such as those found in the AR15 & AR10 families.
 
Bret4207

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
fiver said:
that or a model 94, just something that weighs and kicks some less than the 375 that I can drag up a hill under the pine trees and make a reasonably placed 75yd shot with.
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An Model '92 Win or '94 Marlin.
 
fiver

fiver

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the 35 rem would work okay, you know,, if you could find one or some ammo for it.
or if it met the criteria for those upper mid-west states where they gotta have a straight wall case.
 
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RCoulter52

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fiver said:
the 35 rem would work okay, you know,, if you could find one or some ammo for it.
or if it met the criteria for those upper mid-west states where they gotta have a straight wall case.
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This is true, but as a re-loader, ammo hasn't been an issue for a while.

As for the rifles? With the acquisition of Marlins assets by Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc.. we should start seeing Marlin firearms back by the latter half of 2022.

As for the straight wall case thing? Well, the hunters in those states need to re-group and fight to get it changed.

Randie
Fort Smith, AR
 
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