Well, happy to say my conicals worked great, and was able to load three in a row without swabbing the barrel, mighta got another down but just wanted to know that I could in the field.. Could never do that with sabots. I used the ox yoke wads and soaked them in SPG lube. 60 grains of loose Pyro P was plenty as far as I'm concerned. Using #11 percussion caps. First two shots from a clean barrel at 50 yards before adjusting the scope. 