Lyman 311465 Plain base

[Ben]

I have several 311465 moulds.
I decided today ( an executive decision of mine....... ) that I
would remove the gas check shanks from both
cavities of a 2 cavity , 311465 mould.

The work went well.
Now to size , lube and coat these with BLL and try them out.

Ben

Here is the " after photo " :

As they drop from the mould now :

 

[Gary]

Another fantastic job Ben, I'm going to get around to doing that on a mold of mine as well.
Thanks for the encouragement.

 

[Ben]

Full steam ahead.

Ben

 

[Spindrift]

Nice job!
I have the NOE- clone, which has a small meplat. In fact, I just loaded some in a 30-30, hope to make a good plinking load.

 

[Ben]

Should work fine for you.

Ben

 

[CWLONGSHOT]

Awesome stuff. After seeing what you did for me another friend made a HO on a Two cav LEE. Came out great. Both these Gave me the inspiration to cut this LeE 309-2305r.

I have more then a few molds I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to do this to. 75+% of my velocities combined with my Powder Coat have ZERO USE for the extra costs and work associated with a GC!

CW

 

[Rockydoc]

Ben, which cartridge was that 311465 designed for? The weight and nose suggest 7.62x39.
I guess it could be a plinker for most any 30 caliber.

 

[Ben]

Not originally designed for any modern cartridge.
Been around way too long. 80 - 90 years

The Loverins go way back.

Ben

 

[RicinYakima]

The Guy Loverin's designs go back to the 1930's and early post-war era. The '465 was an indoor/short range bullet, the '466 was a 30/30 hunting bullet and the '467 was a 600 yard Hi-Power target bullet. They were a workaround due to the poor bullet lube at the time to try to get to the 1600 f/s range. The '467 was long enough to get the top drive band to engrave the throat on most Springfields and Winchester model 70's.

 

[Ben]

Some good history.
Thanks Ric ! !

Ben

 

[fiver]

I have a Walt Melander copy of that bullet.
my 340-A [30-30] loves it, but I have to seat it super short to feed through the old model 94's.
it will most undoubtedly be the first cast bullet I try in that 300 savage I got from Walter.

 

[Ben]

I sat down at the casting table and cast more 311465 plain base today.
A fine casting mould.

Ben

 

[CZ93X62]

I have yet to meet a Loverin design that I didn't like. Nicely enough, my rifles like 'em too.

Using both 50/50 BW/Alox and LSS Carnauba Red, I usually lube the bottom 3 lube grooves only. (#225438 and #245496 only have that many, so there is that). What is the consensus of the NON-POWDER-COATERS on their lube regimens for these longer 30 caliber+ models?

Right after I got my CZ-550 in 9.3 x 62, a member at the old site sent me some samples of Lyman #366408, a Loverin with thick plain base like Ben's re-cut #311465. Weight is 250 grains, and at 1300 FPS those bullets shot LIGHTS OUT with a couple different powders (2400 and IMR-4198, IIRC).

 

[RicinYakima]

What is the consensus of the NON-POWDER-COATERS on their lube regimens for these longer 30 caliber+ models?

My .30 caliber match bullets are lubed with Grey's #24 just ahead of the gas check and one lube groove. Shoot an entire season with one brush stroke, one damp patch of Ed's Red and one dry patch. Next match shoot three foulers and go for record.

 

[fiver]

I go for just the two bottom grooves.

 

[Cadillac Jeff]

I need to get my loverins out again--- I have the 30 cal. flat point one too haven't tried it yet.

 

[RicinYakima]

The '467 was the first bullet I could shoot at 2000 f/s without leading. It would hold 2 MOA at 300 yard reduced range targets for NRA Hi-Power. The issue always was the timed events, not the slow fire. You had to have enough lube to keep up with the jacketed bullet Garands.

 

[Ben]

These Lyman 311465 plain base .30 cal. cast bullets are lubed with the bottom 2 grooves with conventional lube, then the bullets are rolled in BLL. They have been sized .311" dia.
They are sitting on wax paper to dry overnight.

 

[CWLONGSHOT]

Good looking bullets!!!!

I had ta go look as I thought I had the mold.
Its close but no not the same.


I didnt write the mold number down. So Ill have ta look it up.

Its a nice plinker in the 300 BO for mouse farts.



CW

 

[Ben]

Yes, main difference seems to be the lube rings.