mold sprue plate and screws

castmiester

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Just keep your 3/32 Allen key handy and when the mold is hot, loosen and retighten the set screw a few times. This will get you to the correct tightness for the hot mold.
Tried last time l was casting but not letting the plate fall on its own a lightly tighten. I’ll give it a whirl while it’s hot.
 

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Brad

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Many years. More likely a few decades.
I don’t get my moulds up to 700 degrees. I bet they don’t get to 400.

I bet I am not the only one here who owes a piece of shot under the set screw on moulds.
 

castmiester

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Many years. More likely a few decades.
I don’t get my moulds up to 700 degrees. I bet they don’t get to 400.

I bet I am not the only one here who owes a piece of shot under the set screw on moulds.
Ok.. so I used #4 buck shot and cut them down to fit the hole where the allen set screw is.

My mould casted wrinkled rounded casts with melt below 700. I used the Lyman temp gauge where it recommends WW between 500 and 600... no good, too cool. Up'ed the temp, and settled at 725 ish 750 melt in the pot. Do cast Iron moulds need more heat than steel ? Or vice versa ?
 
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Brad

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The mould was at 750 or the lead in the pot was?
I cast with the pot at 700 and I can assure you the mould gets nowhere near that hot. If it did my bullets would take forever to set up so I could dump them from the mould.
 

Dusty Bannister

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I do not think that the usual commercial bullet mold makers use cast iron. I believe it is Mehenite which is probably spelled wrong, but is generally called an iron mold or a steel mold. Another material is brass with aluminum also being used to make bullet molds. Aluminum tends to need more heat and often that is accomplished by casting at a faster tempo than with the other two mold materials.
 

castmiester

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The mould was at 750 or the lead in the pot was?
I cast with the pot at 700 and I can assure you the mould gets nowhere near that hot. If it did my bullets would take forever to set up so I could dump them from the mould.
oh my bad, the melt gets 750 ish, just saw that... I don't know what my moulds are.
 

castmiester

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I do not think that the usual commercial bullet mold makers use cast iron. I believe it is Mehenite which is probably spelled wrong, but is generally called an iron mold or a steel mold. Another material is brass with aluminum also being used to make bullet molds. Aluminum tends to need more heat and often that is accomplished by casting at a faster tempo than with the other two mold materials.
I have old cast iron moulds RCBS and Lyman Ideal. And if you go on RCBS website they say thier moulds now are cast iron.
 

Dusty Bannister

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I saw that when I was checking the material used in the Lyman molds as well. Leaded steel, whatever that is supposed to be. Unknown if that is just recent production or from the old Ideal days. Should not be a big deal as long as they produce good bullets.
 

STIHL

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Ok.. so I used #4 buck shot and cut them down to fit the hole where the allen set screw is.

My mould casted wrinkled rounded casts with melt below 700. I used the Lyman temp gauge where it recommends WW between 500 and 600... no good, too cool. Up'ed the temp, and settled at 725 ish 750 melt in the pot. Do cast Iron moulds need more heat than steel ? Or vice versa ?

Don’t let that Lyman dial type temp probe fool you, I have to run my melt at 900 on that thermometer to make good projectiles.

I don’t pay a whole lot of attention to heat I just keep the probe in the melt to make sure I’m staying somewhat stable, the mold will tell you when it’s at the right temp, every mold has its sweet spot, and quirks for the matter.

I have several RCBS molds and have never had an issue with the plate loosening after it was set. Is there a burr inside the sprue plate hole, or on the screw? I use a piece of glass and sandpaper to wet sand a sprue plate back flat, if ot is slightly warped, that may help.
 

castmiester

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Don’t let that Lyman dial type temp probe fool you, I have to run my melt at 900 on that thermometer to make good projectiles.

I don’t pay a whole lot of attention to heat I just keep the probe in the melt to make sure I’m staying somewhat stable, the mold will tell you when it’s at the right temp, every mold has its sweet spot, and quirks for the matter.

I have several RCBS molds and have never had an issue with the plate loosening after it was set. Is there a burr inside the sprue plate hole, or on the screw? I use a piece of glass and sandpaper to wet sand a sprue plate back flat, if ot is slightly warped, that may help.
I sanded the plate with 150 200 and 400 on a piece of 1/2 plywood. I used a straight edge SS ruler to check it. As I tighten the bolt down ever so slightly it begins to tip. I need friction washers. Tommarow I will go to the hardware store and see what I can find. The Lyman Ideal needs a relatively thick one from the lock washer that's on it now. The Rcbs has a beveled washer that's really thin. That one works better, than the Lyman Ideal. There's not burr on the plate hole or bolt, no.
 

fiver

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as a guideline.
375 for steel mold temp.
400-415 for aluminum
brass gets a titch hotter than mehanite but stays heat soaked once you get it there.

just set your pot temp to 725 for the first few [20-25] pours then back it down to about 700-715.
after that it's all cadence to keep the mold in the temp zone.
3 pours is cruising.
4 is to bring the mold temp up when necessary.
if your bullets come out shiny then turn to a galvanized color as they cool your pretty much in the zone.

unless your running 4-5% tin then they don't dull off.
 

castmiester

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as a guideline.
375 for steel mold temp.
400-415 for aluminum
brass gets a titch hotter than mehanite but stays heat soaked once you get it there.

just set your pot temp to 725 for the first few [20-25] pours then back it down to about 700-715.
after that it's all cadence to keep the mold in the temp zone.
3 pours is cruising.
4 is to bring the mold temp up when necessary.
if your bullets come out shiny then turn to a galvanized color as they cool your pretty much in the zone.

unless your running 4-5% tin then they don't dull off.
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Petrol & Powder

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I have a few Lee molds and like all Lee gear, it hits a price point. Can't say I'm a fan of Lee products but their gear does have its place.
I use a Lee expander die body to hold NOE expanders and there's really no way around that if you want to use NOE expanders.

RCBS makes excellent molds but the 2 cavity limit forces me to turn to SAECO or one of the custom mold makers.