New one arrived today.

USSR

Finger Lakes Region of NY
As I said earlier in another thread, I started casting some Lyman 452460's to shoot them out of the .45 Colt using the upper lube groove as a crimp groove. Well, my Lyman 2 cavity mold being steel and only 2 cavities was not much fun, seeing that I normally cast in brass 4 cavity molds for handgun bullets. Somewhere on the internet (nothing seems to escape the internet), some guy mentioned that Miha makes one of these molds in brass. A quick search of his site bring me to: MP 452-460 SWC PB (452-460) 4 cavity mold. The mold was 20% off, and with a 5% discount I got for writing a review of the last mold I bought from him, no way I could pass it up. Can't wait to crank them out.

Don
 

Brad

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I find 2 cav moulds to be tedious. For a low volume rifle, maybe. For a handgun where I may shoot 1-200 in an outing? Hell no.

That mould should keep you in bullets pretty easily. Just be sure to start working out, those 4 cav brass moulds are heavy.
 

fiver

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I find myself dawdling around with 4 cavity molds, 2 cavities and I'm pretty much moving around in circles in a constant motion.
the difference is still 8 bullets a minute versus 12 bullets a minute.
 

StrawHat

Well-Known Member
For a while I fed a PPC competition diet with 3 two cavity molds. Once I got into the rhythm the bullets piled right up.

Now, I like the 4+ cavity molds.

Kevin
 

Rockydoc

Well-Known Member
I have a couple of those M-P 4 cavity brass moulds. They are awfully heavy for my arthritic wrists, but they are beautiful and cast a pretty bullet.
 

USSR

Finger Lakes Region of NY
Uh oh, Houston, we have a problem. The new mold refuses to fill out the base. Looks like a freshly seated primer in the primer pocket looks - space around the perimeter. Sometimes there is just a little lead down in the nose section. I've preheated the mold, the sprue plate is plenty hot, I'm at my wits end. I've got nearly a dozen of his brass molds and I've never run into this. Any ideas?

Don
 

USSR

Finger Lakes Region of NY
Just a thought, but, could it be because of a too tight fit between the bottom of the sprue plate and the top of the mold? There must be a reason why Accurate Molds puts those vent lines on the top of his molds.

Don
 

CZ93X62

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I am the "odd one out" here. I have few 4-cavity moulds, mostly 2-bangers and some singles. Fiver's description of his casting sequence is much like my own.

Now, for tedium......I give you the Ideal single-cavity #225438 mould. Try filling up a 1# coffee can with castings using THAT tool.
 
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Ben

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My 1st move on this problem would be to loosen the sprue plate enough that if you tilt it, gravity will move it.

Now cast with it. If the sprue cut isn't too your liking ( after you're getting nice base fill out ), you can tighten up the sprue plate a little bit.

Ben
 

Ben

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It is a common practice for me to " break the top edge of the blocks " when I get a used mold or a new mold that doesn't want to offer good bullet base fill out. I use this technique on Steel, Brass, and Aluminum moulds. 1 cavity, 2 cavity, 4 cavity, and 6 cavity.

This 1st photo will show the correct angle to hold the file. Be certain that the file doesn't enter the mould cavity. It may work out best for you to put the mould in a padded vise so that it cannot move. Then you can focus your efforts on the angle of the file and making short smooth strokes with the file.

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I use a very fine cut flat Swiss file. ( The file I used in the photo above is too coarse, I have a very fine cut file, I just didn't have it handy for the photo session ) Some use a fine cut flat stone to accomplish this. It is important not to remove too much metal as you'll end up with " fins " on the base of your bullets. The amount of metal that you'll remove should offer you about the same gap as a vent line on the top surface of your mold blocks.

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It is best to go a little at a time and stop and make about 40 bullets to see if the metal you've removed has made a difference in your problem. Remember , once metal is removed - it can't be put back on ! Only remove enough metal to offer good bullet base fill out and then STOP !

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Look closely at the tops of the blocks.
You can see the " shiney " areas where I've removed a tiny bit of metal on both halves of the mould .

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This technique that I'm describing makes a BIG DIFFERENCE in base fill out on any brand of mold, steel, brass, aluminum, etc !

The mold that you see in the photos below didn't want to offer bullets with decent base fill out regardless of the mold temp, alloy temp, etc. After the vent lines were added at the very top edge of the blocks ( see the last photo ) , the mold base fill out was near 99%.

Be certain that the sprue plate is not too tight. It should swing from right to left with very little effort. This will aid in the venting of air as the mold cavities fill.
 
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Wasalmonslayer

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Ben nailed this on the head!
I do this on all my new molds and it makes a huge difference.
I have a 1” thick piece of glass I lay 600 grit wet sand paper on and gently break that edge at a 45 to create a vent.
Just remember to go easy on it as it is way easier to take it off than try to put it back as Ben states.
I did the one time and had to mill the top of the mold to correct the issue.
 

JWFilips

Well-Known Member
Ben,
I aways wanted to see your angle on the file cut! I never knew if it was from the bottom or top! This expalines it very clearly
Thanks
Jim
 

Ben

Moderator
Staff member
Jim,

This has always worked well for me.
Some may have a better way to do it.
Bottom line is..........the air in a mould MUST
escape if you are to have a good mould fill
with nice clean crisp well filled out bullet
bases.

Thanks,
Ben
 

USSR

Finger Lakes Region of NY
Thanks for the pics and description. I'm gonna try loosening up the sprue plate and see what that does first because "Remember , once metal is removed - it can't be sent back"! ;o)

Don
 

Ben

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Don,

To loosen the sprue plate may give you what you want ? ? ? ....If so, you
won't need to remove any metal on your mould.

Ben
 
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