I still use both, and many other designs, like most others here. I use my 358156HP for practice loads for 38 Spl. With a max load of 231 at +P pressures the point of impact is virtually indistinguishable from Winchesters 158 Gr +P LHP. I would have preferred this situation with a non-gaschecked bullet, but so be it. The 358439 was acquired because I had one long ago, and sold it too cheap in my "Cast Boolits" days. I lucked into this one, and it will be staying with me. A friend took a nice doe a few years back with one of my 358156HPs. I figured he wanted some to detonate water jugs with, but he surprised me a few months later by telling be about the doe. If I had known he wanted to hunt with them, I would have made them a bit harder (strengthened actually), they were my standard practice bullet, and were only around 8-10 bhn. That's one of the big advantages to casting, if you don't like what you already have, you can change the bullets performance in many different ways without having to buy a new mould, or "settle" for anything less than what you want.