richhodg66
Well-Known Member
You guys are almost making this too easy. Gonna order a couple of those rods of Delphin and try it out.
Pacific Powder measure for pistol loading
- Thread starter richhodg66
- Start date
RicinYakima
High Steppes of Eastern Washington
First, I am sorry to hear Cleve Molder's passing. I saw him every year at the Denver gun show that I went to, probably 15 of the last 20 years. Always had dinner with the tool collectors on Thursday night with Crown Royal chasers and show and tell, he had great tools and guns.
I had one of the Pacific measures that I liked very well for flake powders, especially the DOT powders. Made most of my chambers from 1/2 brass scrap and drilled on the drill press and hollowed out with a Handie grinder.
Just make sure you order D-E-L-R-I-N, Rich.
Not trying to be a spelling snob, but I don't know WHAT you'd get if you ordered "Delphin," but I have no doubt @Ian has used in one or another bullet lube concoction.
HAH! I looked it up. It's a "neutral fat found in dolphins." Now, I'm sure Ian's used it in bullet lube!
richhodg66
Well-Known Member
Cleve was a good old guy and that has been my very favorite gun store haunt for a long time. As recently as a few years ago, I could go in there and ask for something pretty obscure (for those who've never been in the shop, it is cluttered and unorganized to put it mildly), and he'd say; "gimme a minute" and usually produce an old cigar box of whatever I was after in short order. Last time I remember, I was looking for Herters shell holders, but my brother went in there and asked for .351 WSL dies, same result. Awesome guy. He'd take off work a couple of weeks each year to go participate in archeological digs to, at least up until a year or so back he was doing this. Seems he was 95, a life well lived.
richhodg66
Well-Known Member
Gonna order some of that Delrin rod from Ebay, but first, I'm gonna go to our local hardware store and start scrounging through bins. I know I saw bushings and spacers, seems I read "Nylon" on the drawer, but who knows? Wouldn't it be awesome if there was something available and cheap that worked without any real effort?Just make sure you order D-E-L-R-I-N, Rich.
Not trying to be a spelling snob, but I don't know WHAT you'd get if you ordered "Delphin," but I have no doubt @Ian has used in one or another bullet lube concoction.
HAH! I looked it up. It's a "neutral fat found in dolphins." Now, I'm sure Ian's used it in bullet lube!
Ian
Notorious member
Now, I'm sure Ian's used it in bullet lube!
and that's not all.....
fiver
Well-Known Member
ohhhh.
now your rubbin things the wrong way.
just as a FYI.
hornady shotshell bushings are numbered.
numbered to the size of the hole in the bushing.
a #450 measures 450 ID.
numbered drill bits are also numbered to the size of the hole they make.
these might be numbered the same way.
now your rubbin things the wrong way.
just as a FYI.
hornady shotshell bushings are numbered.
numbered to the size of the hole in the bushing.
a #450 measures 450 ID.
numbered drill bits are also numbered to the size of the hole they make.
these might be numbered the same way.
KeithB
Resident Half Fast Machinist
If you plan to machine Delrin be sure you have sharp tools.
Nylon will soak up moisture and change size a lot more than most plastics.
Brass isn't all that expensive in 1/2" diameter. Online metals has 1/2" diameter 360 alloy brass for 13.38 for 12" + $8.99 shipping. 24" is $25.73 + $8.99. For about $35 in raw material you could make all 22 standard bushings and have stock left for some custom sized ones.
www.onlinemetals.com
Brass won't spark or build up a static electricity charge or swell up when its humid. I'm sure there are other suitable materials but IMHO for something like this there is no BETTER material.
Nylon will soak up moisture and change size a lot more than most plastics.
Brass isn't all that expensive in 1/2" diameter. Online metals has 1/2" diameter 360 alloy brass for 13.38 for 12" + $8.99 shipping. 24" is $25.73 + $8.99. For about $35 in raw material you could make all 22 standard bushings and have stock left for some custom sized ones.
360 Brass Round Bar | Online Metals
Find 360 brass round bar at OnlineMetals.com® in a variety of sizes, including custom-cut lengths. Easily price and order online. Convenient direct delivery
Brass won't spark or build up a static electricity charge or swell up when its humid. I'm sure there are other suitable materials but IMHO for something like this there is no BETTER material.
Just a quick note:
Looking at the numbers I got, it looks like the holes were meant to go up/down in .010" increments. Comparing the ones I have, plus adding .010" to the missing ones, in succession, everything sort of falls into place. I don't think they bored those holes as carefully as I was trying to measure either, but the discrepancies between what I recorded and what I am thinking are minimal.
I have number drills and letter drills as well as fractional, at least all but the tiniest, which I tend to break or lose. I figure 1/2" stock will fit in my 5/8" drill-press chuck and I can "chuck" the drill in the vise and actually get the holes centered, though they might come out a few tenths larger than the drill that way. Would only be a problem if I had to drill successively larger holes, because different sized drills wouldn't center the same way in the vise.
Looking at the numbers I got, it looks like the holes were meant to go up/down in .010" increments. Comparing the ones I have, plus adding .010" to the missing ones, in succession, everything sort of falls into place. I don't think they bored those holes as carefully as I was trying to measure either, but the discrepancies between what I recorded and what I am thinking are minimal.
I have number drills and letter drills as well as fractional, at least all but the tiniest, which I tend to break or lose. I figure 1/2" stock will fit in my 5/8" drill-press chuck and I can "chuck" the drill in the vise and actually get the holes centered, though they might come out a few tenths larger than the drill that way. Would only be a problem if I had to drill successively larger holes, because different sized drills wouldn't center the same way in the vise.
Those aren’t the traditional numbered drills - #80 to #1
After I went to bed last night. it hit me - chuck up a 1/2" x 1/2" "blank" in the 5/8" chuck and center-drill all of the blanks that way first and it will make it a snap to center the center-drilled blank in the VISE, so successively larger drills could be used in the chuck to make larger holes, withoiut realigning the blank/drill for each size. This way, I'd get the advantage of a well-centered center-drill hole and can still switch up drills.
You would want to put the center-drill in the vise and a nice, pointy center-punch in the chuck, line up the two and secure the vice. Remove the center-punch, replace with a blank and proceed to center-drill each blank. Once done with that, put the first blank in the vise, chuck up the first drill (or use t he center-punch) to realign the vise and resecure.
Not that all this matters all that much, because my drill-press is still a drill-press and not a mill. It's not bad, but compared to a mill, it's a bit "sloppy."
THIS is what my brain does when I try to go to sleep. Always working on a work-around in lieu of buying the right tools, but once engaged, it's hard to break away (give up) and I end up investing a fair bit of time, out of stubbornness.
fiver
Well-Known Member
you can adjust a bushing easy enough.
i will run my champher tool over the top of the hole to gain a tenth.
i'll also put a strip of metallic flue tape in the hole from one end to the other to take one-two-three out.
a dab of finger nail polish also works, but i prefer the tape.
i have a small set of numbered drills for doing carburetor work.
a 22 coincides with a jet numbered 22, all i care about there.
but the others are bigger and measure out, i'm sure they were the wife's grandpa's and most likely pre-date WW-2 by a few years.
i will run my champher tool over the top of the hole to gain a tenth.
i'll also put a strip of metallic flue tape in the hole from one end to the other to take one-two-three out.
a dab of finger nail polish also works, but i prefer the tape.
i have a small set of numbered drills for doing carburetor work.
a 22 coincides with a jet numbered 22, all i care about there.
but the others are bigger and measure out, i'm sure they were the wife's grandpa's and most likely pre-date WW-2 by a few years.
richhodg66
Well-Known Member
I dropped by the hardware store on the way home yesterday and came home with a couple of Nylon bushings which are 1/2" OD and had a couple of different internal holes drilled through. I'm gonna take Kieth's advice and make some out of brass stock, but I am curious just what those particular two will throw and if they'll even work. Gotta find a minute to install one and go throw and weigh about a hundred charges to see how consistent they can be.