Powder coated pure lead with gas checks

[johnnyjr]

Has anyone tried bullets of pure lead in the 243 using low node loads. I just cast up 70 to try at 50 yards. Will powder coat and gas check. Water pump gone bad in my truck. Be a few days before I can shoot them. Thanks..

 

[johnnyjr]

Has anyone tried bullets of pure lead in the 243 using low node loads. I just cast up 70 to try at 50 yards. Will powder coat and gas check. Water pump gone bad in my truck. Be a few days before I can shoot them. Thanks..

Forgot to add,it's the Lyman Loverin bullet..thanks

 

[Spindrift]

Never tried pure lead. My softest alloy, is range scrap from an indoor .22lr range, at about BHN 11. This works fine with PC.

Your bullets will probably work just fine!

 

[johnnyjr]

That's what I'm hoping. Gonna try some low node with Winchester wst. I tried some titegroup with pretty good groups at 50 yards. 700x is another good one as well..

 

[JWFilips]

Should be fine PC coated and un checked at "Low Node" Never did it but have gone to 9 BHN that way

 

[popper]

Only pure I tried was in 40SW normal loads. Learned real fast that they would shoot fine when they didn't tumble - 401 Lee sizer left them UNDERSIZED! Higher psi is required on the smaller cals to get same performance.

 

[johnnyjr]

I think I am not going to expand the necks either. Without the check they seem to go in the case with little effort as well. Time will tell.

 

[JonB]

I had problem free shooting a moderate load in 41mag, using hollow point bullets, cast with near pure lead, with a plain base style Gas Checks installed. Accuracy was good enough, but accuracy in revolver shooting at less than 25 yds is a lot different that Rifle at 50.

 

[popper]

not going to expand the necks either
Just make sure the case neck doesn't squish the base smaller!

 

[johnnyjr]

not going to expand the necks either
Just make sure the case neck doesn't squish the base smaller!

No problem. The bullets go in easy as it is a gas check bullet. Thanks

 

[Dusty Bannister]

While excessive neck tension can squeeze the body of the bullet smaller, you also need to be aware that resistance on entering the case mouth can create another issue. Seating the bullet that resisted entering the case can result in expanding the nose of the bullet. This could create just enough resistance that the nose will stick in the lands when you attempt to remove an unfired round from the rifle. So be prepared for a stuck bullet. Powder coating might have just enough thickness variation that many will chamber just fine, until one sticks.

 

[popper]

Brass has a springback effec. Yup, squeese it in and the brass squeeses back.
I had that probem in some 40sw cases with pure. Bullets were undersized a tad but I'd get several that hit fine, then some that keyholed. Range PU brass. Cases were flared and loaded fine.

 

[johnnyjr]

While excessive neck tension can squeeze the body of the bullet smaller, you also need to be aware that resistance on entering the case mouth can create another issue. Seating the bullet that resisted entering the case can result in expanding the nose of the bullet. This could create just enough resistance that the nose will stick in the lands when you attempt to remove an unfired round from the rifle. So be prepared for a stuck bullet. Powder coating might have just enough thickness variation that many will chamber just fine, until one sticks.

Then you fire that one

 

[Dusty Bannister]

I doubt that the range master will be real happy when you do that after he calls for a Cease Fire.

 

[johnnyjr]

I doubt that the range master will be real happy when you do that after he calls for a Cease Fire.

I am the range officer..

 

[popper]

The springback effect of the brass cases is worse for smaller calibers. It is due to the tensile strength of the metal. Example, for a one thou. dia increase, the incremental stretch of the circumference is greater for 243 than 308.

 

[burbank.jung]

Have you shot your pure lead cast bullets yet? I'm curious what your accuracy is even though you have a gas check to distribute pressure across the base and PC to seal in the lead. I'm wondering what the smallest amount of antinomy can be used so the alloy can be water dropped to increase bhn.

 

[burbank.jung]

Only pure I tried was in 40SW normal loads. Learned real fast that they would shoot fine when they didn't tumble - 401 Lee sizer left them UNDERSIZED! Higher psi is required on the smaller cals to get same performance.

Can you respond to my new thread about your pure lead cast 40 S&W experience? I don't want to steal this thread. Thanks

 

[johnnyjr]

Have you shot your pure lead cast bullets yet? I'm curious what your accuracy is even though you have a gas check to distribute pressure across the base and PC to seal in the lead. I'm wondering what the smallest amount of antinomy can be used so the alloy can be water dropped to increase bhn.

That bullet had NO gas check. It was also unsized. Powder coated. At 50 yards.loaded with 4.0 gr of Winchester wst..I neck sized,annealed cases. Only 6 shots.