Savage 110E 22-250

[Intheshop]

I think the "E" is for enigma?

Going to pick up a pce of sheet metal equipment today.The guy said bring a rifle because there may be some varmints.So grabbed the 22-250 Enigma out of the safe yesterday.Dry mopped the bore,no foulers,up through the magazine....3 shot cloverleaf @100.3/4" high.Load notes below.

I was interested to see if there was any problems with ammo loaded a good while back from a neck tension standpoint?Apparently not.Brass has 4 firings with one anneal.Also concerned about the tuned load.I put the rig away last winter because of air density.5 shot groups run up through the magazine would rip ragged holes in moderate weather.Once it got stupid cold(Jan,Feb)...I could see the air becoming an issue.Not wanting to change the load,the rifle got put away.

 

[Intheshop]

It shoots so well,from a hunting perspective (it isn't a bench gun,hence 3&5 shot max groups,timed fire) with what I consider HV that it's practically a one load rig.So don't think that HV is just some stunt or quest or whatever.It can be as simple as where the system likes to be.The slow twist thing however,JMO....is not as tolerable on certain points.Air density being one,with nodes being harder to find,and more narrow.

*Notes....55g Lee ,nose bumped,as cast body.BW/Vaseline 50/50 just above GC.25-2600 FPS,4895 w/dacron filler.Pencil thin 14 twist brrl pillar bedded in one of our sporter stocks(cut on original Savage,Weatherby comb patterns).Mix of old WW's and range lead,water dropped.Aged.

 

[RBHarter]

The older 110s were simple .
110 E was economy birch slick stock .
110 LH was left hand High grade , checkering and better wood
110 EV economy varmint heavy bbl birch slick stock .
Etc

 

[fiver]

it's funny how rifles respond to powder speed changes.
both my large case 22's shoot the same load and bullet as my 223 does just as well as they shoot jacketed.
as soon as I change the powder even something as small as from IMR to Hodgdon I lose the groups.
I can usually step the powder speed down a notch and be within a workable group size again but I then just burn more powder to get back to the same place I was.
which is fine if I'm looking for more velocity and seems to be the best way for me to keep stepping things up.

 

[Intheshop]

RB,it's a "flat back"....homeboy jewled bolt.Which,was interesting cause,being the first attempt at such....even with a well plotted fixture,thought the finished product was a bit deep on the machining?It wasn't till later,seeing "fluted" bolts that it occurred ,....doh,the whole purpose of the depth of cut(actually holding oil,and reducing friction) made sense.In a,better lucky than good fashion,if that makes sense?But it is bling.Hope your G babies are well.BW.

 

[Intheshop]

Fiver,thank baby Jesus for fast shop trucks and AC....full report later.Cell phone service is in/out.You'd do well to keep up with the Mustang where I was this a.m.You know,just sayin.

 

[Ian]

Powder and alloy, powder and alloy, etc. Get it right (and get your loading techniques squared away) and it works. Get it wrong and be lucky to hit the berm.

 

[Intheshop]

Ian,I have a hard time spelling aloy,much less defining it.I can hit a thrown clay with a recurve....that's a DANG fact.Shooting cast is pretty much a no brainer.

So,somewhere in this whole scheme of things,talent enters the equation?

I will say,was doing my dryfire practice a cpl days ago.... SPS,7-08 whilst watching Abby Burton on utube ....she opened up some of the finer points on handling firearms.We all know about keeping the muzzle under control.But how she explains it...really stepped up my game on rifle craft.

 

[Ian]

That's exactly what my signature line is all about.

Some people can sling lead at incredibly high speeds into tiny groups with an odd arrangement of worn-out, antique loading tools, and others can't do it with the best money can buy. It took me a while, but I'm not an intuitive person. Engineering school pretty much beat out of me any sense of mechanical intuition I might have had to start with. Many of those who have mastered the craft are more artists than they are mechanics, and cannot explain how they do it. They might be able to show how it's done, but not really know how to give instructions because their minds just cannot disseminate the technicalities. These are the people who cannot explain how much neck tension is enough, they just know what "feels right" on their ancient Rock Chucker press handle, because they've loaded and shot enough to tell the difference. Can you teach someone, methodically, how to hit a thrown clay with an arrow? "Just lead it a little bit and hit it right before it starts losing power" isn't going to convey much information. Same thing with "Alloy and powder", right after "static and dynamic fit" with handloading cast bullets. It's tough to describe, I've tried and tried and tried and I don't think anyone's learned it yet from me, though plenty have on their own. You really have to understand the challenges to shooting cast bullets fast on "another" level (animated, 3D) before you can get the nuts-and-bolts part of it right.

Slow twist is just a band-aid over stitches for other problems that solve twist too if you fix them. Alloy and powder, it's all how about how they dance with the rifle. The difference between a gymnast launching themselves and flipping to catch the next bar or missing it is only an inch, or an undefinable amount of energy difference at the launch, but it has to be exactly right or it won't work.