I lucked out at a local range, a fellow was helping out a widow with her husband's estate. I ended up getting a case of .308 brass from the 1992 Palma match. Its in the original cardboard case, as well as the individual boxes of 20 cardboard boxes. I did some research and it seems to be a very highly regarded brass. It was made by Winchester, and I learned they needed to retool and adjust their machines 4 times before they finally got the wall thickness to the required consistency required. It is very nice brass and weighs within a grain of each other. I necked some up for my .358 Win to see how it would do, nary a hiccup , smooth as butter. Oddly enough I was expecting small primer pockets, but this has the regular large rifle. Very happy to have helped out the estate and I got myself some very nice brass in the process......not that I needed it, but I can't help it when brass comes available.