Shooters World powder pellets

[Tomme boy]

Was at the somewhat local Scheels this weekend. They had the SW HUNTER 50GR pellets on sale for $9.95. I bout all six they had. They are 50gr and 100 in each bottle. I am going to give them a try in my inlines. Had a bunch of scopes go bad on me over the last year. So all the scopes on the muzzleloader were repurposed. One will be freed up by the end of the week when a new rimfire scope comes in. I can put the scope on the 22 back on the ML.

Anyone tried this type of powder? The only other substitute I have used was pyrodex. That stuff is just too corrosive for me.

 

[Missionary]

6 years back in AZ I was "forced" into buying some 777. Had purchased a #3 Dragoon Repro and my son in Mesa wanted to shoot it. So after 30 minutes of calls and no Goex anywhere close bought the 777. So there is my sub experience.
30 years back the Target store in Danville,ILL-nois was selling out all PB items. So we bought a CVA Hawken for $50, and all the Pyro they had for $1 a pound. I think it was 14 pounds of various grades. Been shooting that nasty stuff in our 1.1" cannon every time north. Only 4 more pounds to go. With a 18" smoothbore barrel it is rather easy to get clean.
So no... I am no help at all. But for sure hot water clean and oil well after each use until you know for sure.

 

[Joshua]

I hunted for the first time this year with my CVA inline. Got my first deer with it as a matter of fact. I’ve turned into a bit of a “powder nerd” over the last few years, and have read up quite a bit on the BP substitutes.

The biggest complaint I hear about is that the BP substitutes are hydroscopic. Most of the pellets are sold in unsealed containers. They are literally absorbing water as soon as they are packaged. I hear are that many hunters have switched over to (or back to) loose powder because it stores so much better in the plastic bottles. They did this because they had misfires or “soft hang fires” that resulted in lost animals, when using older pellets.

The Shooters World powder is packaged in bottles! I think that is great! And at less than $10.00 it was cheap. Properly stored it should last quite a bit longer than the 777 and Pyrodex pellets that are sitting on the shelf in the sporting goods store absorbing water.

Edit: This year I used loose Pyrodex. I had bought 777 pellets last year, but decided it was best to use the loose Pyrodex instead.

 

[Winelover]

I haven't had any hygroscopic issues storing Pyrodex "P" in the original plastic bottles. It's the only grade of Pyrodex I purchased. Use it in the ROA and my two front stuffers. The "P" (for pistol) packs denser so loads are reduced 10% by volume. All my muzzle loaders are cleaned immediately after firing, so never any rust issues.

 

[JonB]

Since the issue of hygroscopic has come up, I got a question.
Back in the 90s, I shot a fair amount of BP. Goex brand.
Someone told me that unsealed BP would pull in water, and when fired it would create more smoke. So I kept on small container of FF Goex in a open container, and aged it a few months in a warm humid Minnesota summer. I didn't have any hang fires and when shot, it "seemed" like more smoke.
Does that sound legit?
Is real BP hygroscopic?

 

[Rick H]

I have 777 pellets that have been stored in their non sealed plastic boxes in my damp basement for close to 10 years. My velocities, and points of impact have not varied significantly from year one. I also have loose 777 powder that is even older than that. My experience tells me the tales of 777 absorbing moisture and going bad while being stored in original containers are another myth that originated with the introduction of the powders and pellets by folks who never gave them a decent chance. Those rumors came out within weeks of the powders being introduced for sale. Yet the "Guru's" of bogus information were spouting about their lack of longevity as soon as they hit the shelves.

I have no experience with Pyrodex but have 25+ years experience with 777 and 45 yrs. with Holy black. Given reasonable care both last and go bang. Both require you to clean the weapon after use if you want to avoid metal corrosion.

 

[RBHarter]

The boxes that the T7 pellets come in make neat boxes for 50 rounds of 45 Colts....... Unfortunately even after washing hot and soapy twice I just tossed them , the penicillin culture looking corrosion on the brass cases in just a few weeks was no good for me .

The charcoal is replaced in most of the replacements with sugar or derived carbon from . As a wrench you can run a fair amount ethylene glycol through an engine even a fair amount of sugar will pass through , IF it doesn't sit wet for very long and it gets washed out via clean fuel (or water via head gasket R&R ) .

I find/found T7 to be more difficult to clean up an get zero green/brown mops 5 days after than Pyro either P or RS as compared to gum or grape wood charcoal based or Goex .

My results are , not definitive, based on 3 pellet boxes , base on 2 vintages of loose T7 , most of 3 cans of Pyro circa 1@ 1990 2@2005 , parts of 3# of Goex FF&FFFg , and about 4# of screened Ownself with damping via alcohol and straight water with roughly 2% anti clump additives in base ingredients of commercial sources . Fired in 3 different Juker/CVAs , 2 TC Hawkins, 3 Colts 1860s , 2 Rem 58s and 3 other generally unknown pistols and another kit rifle that has a Siler lock . 2 of the above were not cap locks .

 

[Tomme boy]

I have had several bottles of RS go bad from moisture. They were stored in the original bottles with the seal not compromised. They just sat for several years after opening them. Lost 2 deer because of it. They would not fire. And that was with the old HOT CCI musket caps. So I just started to through the old left over powder in range use only set aside.

I remember one of the magazines did a multiple year study on this same issue a long time ago. They took several bottles of the same lot and fired them for speeds. The first bottle was opened and fired. They then poured out half of the bottle. Then they closed it up and came back a year later to test the speed again. It had lost several hundred fps. They took the second bottle and did the same firing one shot and pouring out half the powder. Then came back a year later and fired a load from the first bottle and it lost another 150fps. Then fired the second bottle and it was close the the first bottles second shot. They kept doing this for a few more years with a new bottle each year. And they all followed the results each time they did it. till the first bottle at I think it was 4 or 5th year did not fire.

 

[fiver]

and then they cation you to keep regular powder stored in a 45-50% humidity condition.
lower and it will lose moisture and speed up the burn rate.

 

[RicinYakima]

and then they cation you to keep regular powder stored in a 45-50% humidity condition.
lower and it will lose moisture and speed up the burn rate.

It only gets that high for a couple of hours in the summer irrigation season. Rest of the time 15 to 20 % just before dawn. Neat thing is that once the moisture is gone, it is stable forever (or at least the 50 years my friend and I have been shooting DuPont FFF from a 25 pound keg).