so waht ya doin today?

[fiver]

the first would have been from one of those little statues people tied their horses to when they went visiting.
I always thought they were dressed like a jockey or slave which I guess is where they woulda got the term monkey from at the time.
something like this.

I have a hard time seeing anything getting that cold in the south, but [shrug] cold is relative I guess.
I have seen guy's show up to work in full on parka's when it's like 40-45*s.
I was sweating just looking at them.

 

[Pistolero]

30F is severe winter weather in North Fla, heavy winter coats, gloves, hats....

Not so much in South Dakota.

 

[Brad]

Ian wears a full parka at 60°.

 

[462]

Brad, I think it's closer to 80-degrees.

 

[Rick]

Ian wears a full parka at 60°.

Yep, right on top of his down coat.

 

[Ian]

50-60 is about right for heavy jacket and some kind of head cover. I wear a ss undershirt and long, heavy twill or chambray shirts when it's 105⁰ though. It IS all relative.

 

[fiver]

I remember a little discussion I had with my TI in basic training.
it went something like.
if one guy falls out wearing a coat everyone falls out wearing a coat!!!
[me being the one without a coat]
what about if one guy falls out not wearing a coat,,, everyone falls out not wearing a coat?

to this day the look of emotions and thoughts that crossed SGT. Lytel's face is etched into my memory.
after about 45 seconds he leaned in and whispered 'just wear a coat, would ya?'

 

[Rick]

Wow fiver. In the Corps boot camp that whisper would have been at about 145 decibels and fiver would have been an extremely unhappy camper throughout the remainder of boot camp. Everybody wears a coat was the order, to question any order would spell doom not just for the asker but the entire platoon. Not only would your punishment from the DI have been quite unpleasant the entire platoon would not let you forget the punishment they received for your indiscretion.

 

[462]

My basic training drill instructor, MSGT Prokop, knew how to get in your face, and loudly, too, but that was back in the days when a war was on-going and before the military caved to the dictates of panty-waists and whiney crybabies.

 

[Rick]

Drat . . . Gun show this weekend and only 5 minutes from home and I forgot all about it. Think I'll wander over there and look at all the things I can live without and/or can't afford. Ya never know right?

 

[Pistolero]

You always have to look, Rick. Occasionally I find a deal I can't pass up that I wasn't think I could afford.
Like a Freedom 86 for less than half price.

 

[Rick]

Freedom Arms huh? What caliber?

I've got a Freedom 83 10" silhouette model 22 complete with Bo-Mar sights I could probably be talked out of.

EDIT: Just looked at the Freedom web site, haven't done that for quite awhile. Seems Freedom is quite proud of their revolvers. They have gotten down right pricey. Yep, they sure have.

 

[fiver]

they went to 1200+$ the day after Dick retired.

I hadn't said anything to anyone in a month, let alone spoke to an instructor so I think I caught him off guard with a word reversal saying exactly what he had just said.
I'm pretty sure he knew I seen him as someone doing a job [you know a real person] not as some kind of figurehead.

 

[Rick]

they went to 1200+$ the day after Dick retired.

Yep, the good old days.

Now they are $2,850.00.

Bought my first FA 83 in 454 for $750.00 (Full retail price). At that time the 454 was all they made. If ya wanted to shoot an FA ya shot the 454.

 

[Pistolero]

I am thinking about taking up bull riding.

After PT today, I think it would leave me feeling more chipper.
But, I walked a mile this AM, and got the knee to 110 degrees flex, so things are moving in
the right direction. Boy this is FUN!

.44 Mag, for less than half of new price, the only rub is the darned express sights, IMO suck. I suppose
that if you were hunting jackrabbits on the run or something, they might make sense, but they are no good
for precision shooting, IMO. I'll get a set of proper ones when I get a round tuit.

Bill

 

[Rick]

Not familiar with what is called "express sights". When Bo-Mars became unobtanium FA went to Iron Sights by Jim Rock. Bob & Jim were good friends I guess. After the Iron Sights FA went to Champion Sights. FA gave me a set of Champions at the SHOT Show when they first started using them for me to evaluate. When I got home I mounted it and checked it with a dial indicator up & down and windage. Promptly mailed them back to FA, just horrible consistency, no way I would try to compete with those sights. No idea if they have improved them since then or even if FA is still using the Champions.

The Iron Sight Gun Works Sights were decent sights except for a very thin windage screw, took very little to bend it and if bent any windage adjustment also made a huge elevation change.​

So . . . Do you any chance have a picture of these "express sights"?

 

[462]

Smokeywolf,
A picture of the .38 Special Uberti 1866 Sporting Rifle.

I bought it used some months back and it's been a hoot to shoot since. The store owner said the rifle's previous owner had a feeding issue and replaced the loading gate (ladle). From what I've read, it's not uncommon for the wee tit, that is located on the inside of the gate, to get bent or break off and tie up the works. Sounds like a case of rough handling, to me. Anyway, when at the range I don't load via the gate.

I am light years away from ever being able to own any of the Old West lever action rifles, so this rifle and a Rossi 92/EMF Hartford Sporting Rifle, in .357 Mag. suffice nicely.

 

[Pistolero]

Wide, very shallow V rear, gold bead on a narrow post on the front. Good for quick alignmnent,
but not a precise sight picture at all. A hunting sight, originally found, from what I know, on
English double rifles for dangerous game. Hitting an elephant or rhino at 35 yds isn't precise work
but if not done "in a timely manner", the owner will be dead. So, more for quick than for precise.

Not my idea of what I want, or need on a mostly target handgun. Certainly would be fine for hunting
deer at moderate ranges, or a hog up close and personal, where speed might, again, trump accuracy.

The sights are very nicely made, seem extremely well fitted, just a terrible sight picture for precise work.
I'm sure they were exactly what a previous owner wanted.

Nice looking rifle, Michael.

 

[smokeywolf]

462, thanks very much for the pic. She's just gorgeous; even better than I expected. I'd be beaming with pride to pull that out of the case at a range.

 

[462]

Smokeywolf and Bill,
Thank you , gentlemen!

Wanted it the moment I saw it, though it took me two days to talk myself into buying it. And, yes, it stirs my soul whenever I shoot it. Too, I've spent time admiring what I consider to be its graceful lines, and its complexly simple operation.

Older range regulars know what it is and have made complementary comments. Conversely, however, the younger generations who make up most of the black plastic rifle crowd are completely ignorant as to what it represents -- Winchester's first rifle -- its significance and importance in America's Westward movement, and aren't the least bit interested in its cartridge. But such is life, I suppose