so waht ya doin today?

[Ian]

Happy Easter!

I made a little something this morning to get a jumpstart on diabeetus for the whole household. YOLO. Well, YOLO unless you happen to walk on water and give sight to a blind man.

If you look real close you can see some of Thorn Hollow's finest 2021 maple syrup seeping out of the bottom.




On the switch, the automatic transfer switch Westinghouse sells amounts to a double 120V receptacle, not a whole house unit. I didn't buy a machine capable of continuous 50-amp 240V so I could run just a refrigerator and freezer. I'll buy a manual transfer switch and replace our master disconnect with it. Our electric co-op doesn't care what I do past the meter, but a transfer switch positively prevents any chance of feeding the grid unintentionally. I'll give them a call, cut the seal, yank the meter, do my work, and have them drop by to slap a fresh seal on it at their convenience. Our meters are "turtles" so the concern about tampering is low and the power company doesn't get too worked up over seals.

 

[Winelover]

Second favorite, just after French toast with pure maple syrup.

 

[RBHarter]

I have thoughts about switching but they are over simplification on a grand scale , so scrub that and buy the approved equipment with an install plan .

Rick what does a tank set you back these days when you buy one outright ? Obviously there's some sort of a base and it scales up as the pressure vessel increases in volume . Thinking a 250 will be enough here .

 

[Ian]

You have to figure the cost of the hole too if you do it like Rick did. Holes around my part of the world get mighty expensive and often require high explosives

 

[Rick]

Don't have to bury the tank. Winelover did his 1,000 gallon tank, Smokeywolf didn't. If I get the 1,000 I would like to bury it but probably wouldn't. A 250 would be nearly useless for me. Size of the tank depends on many things, size of the generator & load on it, other uses like cooking, heat etc. A full 500 gallon tank is roughly 400 gallons (80%), my 22kw generator running 24/7 might get two weeks from the 400 gallons with no other usage but I kinda doubt it. One of the prime benefits of the 1,000 gallon tank is that most likely you would be able to buy propane once a year, in the summer when prices are far lower.

 

[462]

The local horde is scheduled to blow in at 10:30, for awful waffles with fake maple syrup, Smucker's blueberry syrup, walnuts and chocolate chips (do not ask), scrambled eggs, etc. Some sort of game usually follows such events, but knowing I don't do games my son-in-law said he'd keep me busy in the garage/casting/reloading area. (I think he's to tell me about a new gun he's waiting on.)

 

[Rick]

I have thoughts about switching but they are over simplification on a grand scale , so scrub that and buy the approved equipment with an install plan .

Rick what does a tank set you back these days when you buy one outright ? Obviously there's some sort of a base and it scales up as the pressure vessel increases in volume . Thinking a 250 will be enough here .

The tanks have short legs and sit on cement blocks, no need of anything else unless your going to bury it. Then you have the cost of the hole plus a load of sand that the tank sits on. I called a place a couple of weeks ago and the price on a 1,000 gallon tank was $3,000 delivered but not set up. The cost of the hole is on you and whoever you hire to dig it.

 

[smokeywolf]

We have a 22K Generac and bought our 1,000 gal. propane tank outright. I think I remember a $2,000 price tag for the new, not reconditioned tank. Our house and the tank sit on a small mountain (more like a hill) of nearly solid limestone. Walkout basement was blasted out using explosives. If I ever want more propane capacity, it would probably be more cost effective to add another tank than blast out a hole for the one we have.

 

[Rick H]

One of the prime benefits of the 1,000 gallon tank is that most likely you would be able to buy propane once a year, in the summer when prices are far lower.

Around here you can do that anyway with a smaller tank. I prepay once a year, get the low price locked in and they keep your tank full throughout the year. You contract and pay for what they think you need based on your past usage. If you use less the credit carries over to the next year. More? I think it is supposed to go at the current rate at time of fill, however that only happened once with me (that I used more than estimated) and they charged me the same rate contracted for.

My cabin in the north country is heated with propane. Has a 300 gal. tank and gets filled about 3 times/year. It rarely takes 200 gal. on a fill.

 

[CZ93X62]

I leave electrical ANYTHING to people that know what they are doing. I try to know what I don't know, it IS good to know one's limits.

 

[Rick]

We have a 22K Generac and bought our 1,000 gal. propane tank outright. I think I remember a $2,000 price tag for the new, not reconditioned tank. Our house and the tank sit on a small mountain (more like a hill) of nearly solid limestone. Walkout basement was blasted out using explosives. If I ever want more propane capacity, it would probably be more cost effective to add another tank than blast out a hole for the one we have.

I was thinking it was $2,000 for your tank when I called Anderson to set that up for you. Was Anderson I called a few weeks ago and just over a year later they are now $3,000. I also asked them what my 500 gallon tank would be worth on trade in, they said they would need to look at it. If I do go with a new 1.000 gallon tank it may well be worth it to keep the 500 and just tie them together. Got a feeling I would take it in the shorts to trade it in.

 

[Rick]

I leave electrical ANYTHING to people that know what they are doing. I try to know what I don't know, it IS good to know one's limits.

Bingo . . . .

I can do most things electrical around the house but when I saw what was involved with installing that transfer switch I happily wrote them the $1,200 check.

 

[Rick]

Around here you can do that anyway with a smaller tank. I prepay once a year, get the low price locked in and they keep your tank full throughout the year. You contract and pay for what they think you need based on your past usage. If you use less the credit carries over to the next year. More? I think it is supposed to go at the current rate at time of fill, however that only happened once with me (that I used more than estimated) and they charged me the same rate contracted for.

My cabin in the north country is heated with propane. Has a 300 gal. tank and gets filled about 3 times/year. It rarely takes 200 gal. on a fill.

Same here, I missed the boat last summer on the cheap rates though. If I don't get the 1,000 gallon tank I most likely will do a pre-buy next summer. Prices can vary $2.00 a gallon winter to summer. That may not be much if all your doing is filling your BBQ tanks but bulk tanks can quickly become serious money.

 

[KeithB]

I'm glad I've developed a good relationship with our local electrical contractor.

Had my normal breakfast of scrambled eggs with chopped Jalepenos and Velveeta Mexican style cheese and a bowl of Cheerios and blueberries. The eggs get my motor running in the a.m., help clear out my sinuses, get my digestive tract working...

Going in to the shop later today and finish building a couple of fixture crates, the last ones I need to build for a while.

Hope everyone has a good day!

 

[CWLONGSHOT]

Not today... But Yesterday, I smoked two small pork hind quarters. WOW WOW Wow!! I ate more than I should have last night "tasting".

Today Im just organizing a lil straightening in my loading room and Just finished the Deviled eggs.
Momma should be home shortly Should eat around 4. Just us.
Happy Easter all!
God Bless

CW

 

[Ian]

I had to build my own meter loop and run the underground to the (at the time) barn. Wrestling 3-0 THWN inside a box is somewhat challenging.

 

[smokeywolf]

I'm glad I've developed a good relationship with our local electrical contractor.

Had my normal breakfast of scrambled eggs with chopped Jalepenos and Velveeta Mexican style cheese and a bowl of Cheerios and blueberries. The eggs get my motor running in the a.m., help clear out my sinuses, get my digestive tract working...

Going in to the shop later today and finish building a couple of fixture crates, the last ones I need to build for a while.

Hope everyone has a good day!

Eggs help keep my BG leveled out for about half the day. Been hypoglycemic for at least 10 years. From what I've read, they work in a similar way for diabetics; keep BG from bouncing up and down.

 

[KeithB]

Smokey, if you don't have any cholesterol issues (and I don't) then eggs are the best eye vitamins you can eat.

 

[Ian]

Whole eggs contain cholesterol that's good for you and always has been. Doctors who say otherwise are completely ignorant. Some of the smarter research doctors are finally beginning to figure this out.

By the way, beef has very high cholesterol content (much if it the bad kind) and if you overcook the fat you're not doing your health any favors. Now, cattle eat grass. Nothing but grass, hay, or maybe some raw grain right before the slaughter. How much cholesterol is in grass?

 

[smokeywolf]

Tasha the Malamute is getting a lot more cholesterol than we are, as the beef that she gets is the 90/10 10 lb. chubs from Sam's Club. A few days ago broke 7 chubs down to seventy 1 lb. vacuum sealed bags.
Most of the beef we consume is grass fed, grass finished 93/7 and sometimes we mix that with ground bison. I probably don't eat more than 12 oz. of beef per month now and Mrs. smokeywolf eats less than half that. When the cardiologist did her angioplasty he was surprised to see that her arteries were clean as a whistle. In spite of that, she's keeping her saturated fats as low as possible and her sodium intake at 1,000 Mg/day or lower.

While I do eat one egg for breakfast at least 4 days each week, whenever I eat eggs or meat (even for breakfast) I drink a glass of high tannin (high polyphenols) wine with it.