The magic place for .30's.


High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Using traditional bullet designs of about 200 grains, almost every full size .30 caliber likes the 1400 - 1450 f/s speed range. Not only 1/10 twist in the big cases, but 1/12 for 170's in the 30/30 and 115's in 1/20 for the 32/20. This is the first place I go when looking for accuracy in a 30 caliber.

Below is a target I shot with an original Newton in .30 USG (.30/06 in modern terminology) in the late 1990's, post front and Lyman 48 rear. It has the Pope-Newton "segmented rifling" system. Everyone who looked at the rifle thought the bore was worn out because there were no lands and grooves.

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So here is one of those days when the sky is bright, wind gentle and steady and you are shooting in the groove.

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Can't tell a book just by looking at the cover.

Great shooting ! I have many days where I'm unable to do that with a 16 X scope.


St Lawrence river valley, NY
I passed on an original Newton once. Yup, still kicking myself on that decision...


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I that also called Medford rifling? When I slugged my Type 38 Arisaka I got scared because I disn't not see any rifling marks on the slug ( but visually it looked like rifling in the bore) Also a tight fitting patch feels strange a smoothbore! The good thing is that it is very accurate so I don't think there is a problem with it


High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Not really because the Medford curves are part of a circle, land and groove. The Pope-Newton is actually segments of an arc with the steep sides of the lands the driving sides. The graphic just doesn't show it very well.
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