Pistolero
Well-Known Member
One son of a friend, who I have taught to shoot since age 5 will be entering the USN in the fall and has
asked me to help him brush up on his pistol shooting so he can qualify well.
Truth be told, he could probably walk in cold and do very well, but I have the actual course
of fire (amazingly useful, the military has come a long way on small arms training) and a Beretta
92 for him to train with, but cannot find the target. OPNAV for the topic just says "Transition Target
II or B-21 target". I found an ATF "Transition target", not "II" and no mention of USN, and there
are more variants of the B-21 than you could imagine, at least 8 different ones with VERY different
scoring rings on the same basic man outline.
Anybody ACTUALLY know EXACTLY what target they use?
The other boy is going into the USMC, and we will be working with his AR15. Anybody who is certain
of the USMC qualification targets which will be used with basic training, any info would be appreciated.
Mostly will be teaching 4 positions, sling use and getting good solid riflery with
the AR at 200 and 300 yds. Exact target is of interest but secondary.
USN does not teach rifle, USMC does not teach pistol to enlisted, so the young men's "getting current"
work will not overlap.
Thanks in advance, and please, only current stuff. I know a lot about both kinds of training from 10 yrs and
older from many friends, but current stuff has changed. For example, USMC is using the RCO (they use
the ACOG with chevron aiming point) even for initial training nowdays, no more iron sight training for
recruits. Navy teaches no riflery, but M9 pistol and Mossberg 500 shotgun to recruits.
"The times, they are a-changin' "
Bill
asked me to help him brush up on his pistol shooting so he can qualify well.
Truth be told, he could probably walk in cold and do very well, but I have the actual course
of fire (amazingly useful, the military has come a long way on small arms training) and a Beretta
92 for him to train with, but cannot find the target. OPNAV for the topic just says "Transition Target
II or B-21 target". I found an ATF "Transition target", not "II" and no mention of USN, and there
are more variants of the B-21 than you could imagine, at least 8 different ones with VERY different
scoring rings on the same basic man outline.
Anybody ACTUALLY know EXACTLY what target they use?
The other boy is going into the USMC, and we will be working with his AR15. Anybody who is certain
of the USMC qualification targets which will be used with basic training, any info would be appreciated.
Mostly will be teaching 4 positions, sling use and getting good solid riflery with
the AR at 200 and 300 yds. Exact target is of interest but secondary.
USN does not teach rifle, USMC does not teach pistol to enlisted, so the young men's "getting current"
work will not overlap.
Thanks in advance, and please, only current stuff. I know a lot about both kinds of training from 10 yrs and
older from many friends, but current stuff has changed. For example, USMC is using the RCO (they use
the ACOG with chevron aiming point) even for initial training nowdays, no more iron sight training for
recruits. Navy teaches no riflery, but M9 pistol and Mossberg 500 shotgun to recruits.
"The times, they are a-changin' "
Bill
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