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No. I made fiver a 410 die. I don't own a 41 cal mould so I shoved a 44 cal bullet thru after giving a slight lube coat.
I don't like that kind of pressure on the Star so I turn the die upside down and insert it in an empty hole on the Redding T7. Use a Lee type push rod and pull the handle. The force is not a big deal for the loading press but is hard on the Star.
The final bullet measures .4095-.410. He is getting a nice matching sizing punch to go with it.
Can't be sure what size a sizer will give without a test, right? Every sizer gets the same testing.
I don't like that kind of pressure on the Star so I turn the die upside down and insert it in an empty hole on the Redding T7. Use a Lee type push rod and pull the handle. The force is not a big deal for the loading press but is hard on the Star.
The final bullet measures .4095-.410. He is getting a nice matching sizing punch to go with it.
Can't be sure what size a sizer will give without a test, right? Every sizer gets the same testing.
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freebullet
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Holy loob groov batman!
I got turned into the 41 magnum a few years back. I really like the caliber myself.
Once again I listened rather than did, I was told the .410 was the way to go. Yes and no. All measurements of my 657 and Blackhawk hunter point more towards .411 and if I were to "fix" them as the thoughts go on cylinders I should open them up to .4115-.412.
I bought some different designs of molds and they show good promise. The 240 Keith just won't let them seat because of the front driving band being so long. The 215 RCBS mold is outstanding, not really a front driving band as much as it is there for a real crimp groove. I have an LBT and an accurate mold that the nose will slip into the throat when sized at .410.
In theory the bullet should be .411 at least, but it just won't fit. The .410 is working, no leading, good to excellent accuracy. So, "if it ain't broke don't fix it".
If it had issues I would open it up, just can't bring myself to do it. I doubt it would hurt it, but it is darn hard to put metal back once removed.
I find myself really liking longshot for this cartridge. For what it's worth, my ES runs 1-3FPS on a regular basis. I find it odd, and in a wheel gun to boot.
Jeff
Once again I listened rather than did, I was told the .410 was the way to go. Yes and no. All measurements of my 657 and Blackhawk hunter point more towards .411 and if I were to "fix" them as the thoughts go on cylinders I should open them up to .4115-.412.
I bought some different designs of molds and they show good promise. The 240 Keith just won't let them seat because of the front driving band being so long. The 215 RCBS mold is outstanding, not really a front driving band as much as it is there for a real crimp groove. I have an LBT and an accurate mold that the nose will slip into the throat when sized at .410.
In theory the bullet should be .411 at least, but it just won't fit. The .410 is working, no leading, good to excellent accuracy. So, "if it ain't broke don't fix it".
If it had issues I would open it up, just can't bring myself to do it. I doubt it would hurt it, but it is darn hard to put metal back once removed.
I find myself really liking longshot for this cartridge. For what it's worth, my ES runs 1-3FPS on a regular basis. I find it odd, and in a wheel gun to boot.
Jeff
fiver
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Jeff hit it pretty well there.
I can seat 411 in the revolvers but I have to shove and squeeze them in that last 32nd of an inch and sometimes I have to turn the cylinder to work them in all the way.
I have gone through some dumb gyrations and almost ordered a FCD die, but Brad most graciously offered to make me a fairly tight .410 size die.
the 41's I have dealt with have all been on the small side of what they should be, rather than on the big side or some here and some there.
I'm looking at using Longshot, I have a few lbs of it here and would like to see how it compares to a couple of other powders.
I can seat 411 in the revolvers but I have to shove and squeeze them in that last 32nd of an inch and sometimes I have to turn the cylinder to work them in all the way.
I have gone through some dumb gyrations and almost ordered a FCD die, but Brad most graciously offered to make me a fairly tight .410 size die.
the 41's I have dealt with have all been on the small side of what they should be, rather than on the big side or some here and some there.
I'm looking at using Longshot, I have a few lbs of it here and would like to see how it compares to a couple of other powders.
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I've always felt the 41 is a better revolver cartridge that either the 357 or 44 magnums. However it does require the same size revolver as the bigger calibers, and that detracts from its user friendliness. A S&W M57 is actually slightly heavier than an M29. Same gun, just less metal removed from inside the bore and cylinders. I don't do single-actions, so a smaller frame Blackhawk won't do anything for me. So I still run 44 mags. I do thing there will be a GP100 in 10mm in my future in the next year or so though.
Ian, I must be the only one on the planet that has not had success of some sort with titegroup.
CAS buddy gave me a few pounds years back. He bragged it up a lot. I have tried up down and side ways, all to my disgust. Calibers, weights, crimps, new brass etc, no go.
As to the longshot, everything I have used it in has shown promise if not excellent out of the gate.
I don't care if it's dirty or not, I have gallons of hoppes #9, wipe and it's gone.
I am on the edge of testing the new "target" powder. A bit faster than bullseye, so they say.
CAS buddy gave me a few pounds years back. He bragged it up a lot. I have tried up down and side ways, all to my disgust. Calibers, weights, crimps, new brass etc, no go.
As to the longshot, everything I have used it in has shown promise if not excellent out of the gate.
I don't care if it's dirty or not, I have gallons of hoppes #9, wipe and it's gone.
I am on the edge of testing the new "target" powder. A bit faster than bullseye, so they say.