What is it

Brad

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Certainly the smallest mould block I have ever seen. The alignment pins are different as well. No markings on mould at all.

I have a few others I will be posting photos of soon. Saw some interesting moulds today.
 

Ian

Notorious member
I'm betting it was made on someone's workbench and had an Ideal sprue plate, with the stop notch modified to fit where the pin happened to be drilled, fitted.
 

358156 hp

At large, whereabouts unknown.
It almost looks like a very early block "liberated" from one of the early one-piece Ideal moulds that were cast with the handle and blocks as a single unit, then cut for removable handles. That vertical bevel made me think if this. Lots of weird things were done in the past as a matter of necessity, or of boredom. I'm way out of my realm here, but I thought I once saw an Ideal Tong Tool with interchangeable blocks at one time. Or maybe I just made that up, I'm wayyy out of my comfort zone here.

30 cal?

Oops! I missed the .22 part.
 
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fiver

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looks like a 225230 [maybe slightly modified on the nose] about 47gr or so with the rounded one.
maybe a scosh over 50 as is.
 

Brad

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Can’t be too heavy as it shot well in his hornet.
 

fiver

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yeaaah, I know the hornets were designed around 40-45gr bullets.
many of them had some slower twist rates too, AIRC the first ones were made up on 223 diameter 22lr barrels with like a 16 twist.
so that pretty much cut them down to 22lr bullet weights,, just faster speeds. [like exactly double the LR]


what could have happened back then is Bill worked at ideal or his neighbor/cousin Bob did and they had some junk mold bodies.
Bill spent a little time from his lunch or after work for a few days and when he got the mold body working he gave it to Bob who waited until they were cutting 22 molds and he dropped it off to his buddy Tom who run it through the process and gave it back to Bill.
 

JonB

Halcyon member
The mold is cute, but there is a whole lot of random tooling lines, LOL.

FYI, my Ruger #3 22 hornet has 1:16 twist.
 

obssd1958

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I agree with 358156 hp's first assessment. I think it's the end of an old Ideal one-piece, mould and handles, tool. They were small blocks, the alignment pins were only needed on the side away from the handle, and when cut off, they would have the rounded spot on the side of the mould by the handles. It also looks as if they have welded steel to each side of the mould, to give enough "meat" to mill the handle slots.
These pictures are of an Ideal 319273 195, that I have in my collection:
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fiver

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that makes sense too.
you can see the parting lines in the one pic where the steel would have been added.
I believe the rest is grinder and file marks.