You need a 9mm Carbine ? ?
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fiver
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the Preppers already own the Hi-Point.
they are coming out with a 10mm to compliment their 9 and 45 and 40 versions.
Ruger better have their act together from minute one to compete, especially with an msrp almost double.
so far the biggest talking point on the boards has been that the ruger can be set up to take glock magazines.
they are coming out with a 10mm to compliment their 9 and 45 and 40 versions.
Ruger better have their act together from minute one to compete, especially with an msrp almost double.
so far the biggest talking point on the boards has been that the ruger can be set up to take glock magazines.
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freebullet
Guest
I expected it to look better from ruger. I'd pass at the prices offered a couple weeks back when I first heard about it.
Ian
Notorious member
The 995 is the one to beat. I'd probably have ten of them is they would ever come up with a new version of the .45 ACPto solve their magazine problems.
So instead I spend about $1,550 putting this one together. Coulda had about six Hi-Points for that, and in retrospect that probably would have been the smarter move.
So instead I spend about $1,550 putting this one together. Coulda had about six Hi-Points for that, and in retrospect that probably would have been the smarter move.
Goatwhiskers
Member
Looks like another tool for wasting tons of ammo. To each his own. GW
RBHarter
West Central AR
A companion gun is never a bad idea !
If it shares magazines that's even better .
The problem with most of them is that they A need a specific magazine that doesn't share well with it's pistol or B they are simply too much money for what you're getting .
Being adaptable I have a pile of M9/92 mags fixed for an HP9 Browning clone . One of these days I'll get them plotted and drilled for the Ruger P95 . Now if this carbine is magazine compatible with the BHP , M9/92-96 , or P95 that's bonus points out of the box for me .
I don't mind the High Point 45 , outside of ugly and heavy , for mags as all of the ACPs I know are revolvers and the one I fussed with fed the 14 round mags fine and wasn't the least bit fussy about bullets . I guess it would be kind of a hassle to demoon to load mags ........
I looked at one of the M1 carbine 9mms . Mags an price we're the break point .
There is an outfit that builds a 3 gun carbine . It's a bare bones rifle with a flip bolt lefty conversion but it's like $1700 . ARs are in the same boat with an upper and mag adapter being ,last I checked ,650+ . Got me wondering about an ATI Omni dedicated now .......
Shopping spree !
If it shares magazines that's even better .
The problem with most of them is that they A need a specific magazine that doesn't share well with it's pistol or B they are simply too much money for what you're getting .
Being adaptable I have a pile of M9/92 mags fixed for an HP9 Browning clone . One of these days I'll get them plotted and drilled for the Ruger P95 . Now if this carbine is magazine compatible with the BHP , M9/92-96 , or P95 that's bonus points out of the box for me .
I don't mind the High Point 45 , outside of ugly and heavy , for mags as all of the ACPs I know are revolvers and the one I fussed with fed the 14 round mags fine and wasn't the least bit fussy about bullets . I guess it would be kind of a hassle to demoon to load mags ........
I looked at one of the M1 carbine 9mms . Mags an price we're the break point .
There is an outfit that builds a 3 gun carbine . It's a bare bones rifle with a flip bolt lefty conversion but it's like $1700 . ARs are in the same boat with an upper and mag adapter being ,last I checked ,650+ . Got me wondering about an ATI Omni dedicated now .......
Shopping spree !
Pistolero
Well-Known Member
IMO, the average person who isn't skilled in shooting and doesn't really intend to 'train up'
due to lack of interest in shooting, but wants a gun for home defense would be likely better
served with a pistol caliber carbine than a handgun, rifle or shotgun. Very low recoil, much
lower noise, flash and blast (indoors, likely at night, probably with no hearing protection) than
a pistol, rifle or shotgun. Easy to point, lots of shots. Folks get all silly about shotguns, from
watching movies which show shot scattering 4 ft wide at 8 yds, when in reality the shot will
be no bigger than a fist at typical indoor distances.
Apparently Ruger offered a couple of pistol caliber carbines to police only years ago, in the 90s. I only
heard of them after they had been discontinued. I asked a chief of police friend (an extremely
skilled pistol shooter, too) about them. He said they had been demoed for the PD, but weren't very
reliable. Seems amazingly foolish to try to sell a semiauto when it isn't reliable. They didn't sell,
and they stopped making them. Never have even seen one, never offered for sales to non-police.
Let's hope that this new one is better, and since Bill Ruger is gone, Ruger makes lots of fine self
defense guns for civilians. They even sell magazines larger than 5 rds for their Mini14s, now, too.
For a long time, Ruger seemed to only want to build hunting and target guns, never CCW handguns
or even large cap mags for the Mini14 for many, many years. They seem way past that now.
Hope this carbine works out well for them.
Bill
due to lack of interest in shooting, but wants a gun for home defense would be likely better
served with a pistol caliber carbine than a handgun, rifle or shotgun. Very low recoil, much
lower noise, flash and blast (indoors, likely at night, probably with no hearing protection) than
a pistol, rifle or shotgun. Easy to point, lots of shots. Folks get all silly about shotguns, from
watching movies which show shot scattering 4 ft wide at 8 yds, when in reality the shot will
be no bigger than a fist at typical indoor distances.
Apparently Ruger offered a couple of pistol caliber carbines to police only years ago, in the 90s. I only
heard of them after they had been discontinued. I asked a chief of police friend (an extremely
skilled pistol shooter, too) about them. He said they had been demoed for the PD, but weren't very
reliable. Seems amazingly foolish to try to sell a semiauto when it isn't reliable. They didn't sell,
and they stopped making them. Never have even seen one, never offered for sales to non-police.
Let's hope that this new one is better, and since Bill Ruger is gone, Ruger makes lots of fine self
defense guns for civilians. They even sell magazines larger than 5 rds for their Mini14s, now, too.
For a long time, Ruger seemed to only want to build hunting and target guns, never CCW handguns
or even large cap mags for the Mini14 for many, many years. They seem way past that now.
Hope this carbine works out well for them.
Bill
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Tom
Well-Known Member
It looks like a fun little plinker. I looked at Davidson's and their supply is allocated, so no real price is available there. With an msrp of 650 I'm guessing the real price would be around 500. If it was offered in 45 acp, I'd probably buy one, although current 9mm ammo is so cheap it's hardly worth loading for.